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RE: Any Vegetarians/Vegans here?
February 20, 2014 at 10:02 am
Why is he always assuming i'm a boy?
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RE: Any Vegetarians/Vegans here?
February 20, 2014 at 10:06 am
I suspect he's attempting to be condescending.
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RE: Any Vegetarians/Vegans here?
February 20, 2014 at 10:13 am
Yes but why boy? Why not girl?
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RE: Any Vegetarians/Vegans here?
February 20, 2014 at 10:18 am
Whenever someone uses the pejorative term "boy" I automatically hear a redneck voice no matter who says it.
You givin' me lip boi?
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RE: Any Vegetarians/Vegans here?
February 20, 2014 at 10:19 am
I doubt enrico is a redneck, they aren't nearly this stupid.
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RE: Any Vegetarians/Vegans here?
February 20, 2014 at 10:47 am
(February 20, 2014 at 9:54 am)Bad Wolf Wrote: And the point of this anecdote was?
Politicians act when most people want something so when for example the non smoker are more that smokers then they will change the law in favor of non smokers.
The politicians will also do something when the situation become unsustainable.
Unfortunately they often take the wrong decision so instead of preventing disasters like the unsustainable cost in the health sector and climate changes caused in part by the meat policy they privatize the health sector and then they throw taxpayers money down the drain when they help the livestock farmers when these guys can not feed the cattle anymore due to their own stupidity when they turn fertile land into a desert.
If it would be for the politicians we would end up in the gutter very soon.
Fortunately there are a lot of good people around and the consciousness all around create more awareness about what is good and what is not good.
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As i did fight about the tobacco smoking in the past and i won as the same time i will fight about any issue that prevent humanity to go ahead. 
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RE: Any Vegetarians/Vegans here?
February 20, 2014 at 10:52 am
(February 20, 2014 at 10:47 am)enrico Wrote: Politicians act when most people want something so when for example the non smoker are more that smokers then they will change the law in favor of non smokers.
They changed the laws about smoking because it became apparent that second hand smoke was very bad for your health. It had nothing to do with popularity or opinion.
(February 20, 2014 at 10:47 am)enrico Wrote: The politicians will also do something when the situation become unsustainable.
Unfortunately they often take the wrong decision so instead of preventing disasters like the unsustainable cost in the health sector and climate changes caused in part by the meat policy they privatize the health sector and then they throw taxpayers money down the drain when they help the livestock farmers when these guys can not feed the cattle anymore due to their own stupidity when they turn fertile land into a desert.
Oh right! I've been wondering why all these deserts are cropping up in england.
(February 20, 2014 at 10:47 am)enrico Wrote: As i did fight about the tobacco smoking in the past and i won as the same time i will fight about any issue that prevent humanity to go ahead.
Then you should be fighting yourself and other people with your beliefs.
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“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom
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RE: Any Vegetarians/Vegans here?
February 20, 2014 at 11:02 am
Quote: Oh right! I've been wondering why all these deserts are cropping up in england.
I know right? It's fucking arid where we are.
Quote: As i did fight about the tobacco smoking in the past and i won as the same time i will fight about any issue that prevent humanity to go ahead.
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RE: Any Vegetarians/Vegans here?
February 20, 2014 at 1:47 pm
(February 20, 2014 at 9:54 am)Bad Wolf Wrote: No there is not. He is saying that all cardiovascular diseases are caused, single handedly, by meat. He is also saying that sick people in hospitals are sick and stay sick because of eating meat.
As I said, there is a grain of truth there. Eating meat increases risk of cardiovascular disease.
(February 20, 2014 at 9:54 am)Bad Wolf Wrote: That doesn't mean anything. The pleasure pathway is activated whenever we do something we like. In fact, that is why we like doing it. It could be anything from getting a high score on pac man to playing the piano.
As does anything else. Meat is not unique in this aspect. Stop encouraging him.
Indeed, any pleasurable activity will cause activation of dopamine neurons. Eating meat however is a harmful activity, to your health, to the environment and most importantly to animals.To the extent the pleasure from eating meat supports harmful behaviour, it is similar to drugs. I am not encouraging him, and regardless I don't think Enrico even reads my posts as he has never responded to them (perhaps it doesn't fit in with this ideology that another vegan could criticise some of his views?)
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RE: Any Vegetarians/Vegans here?
February 20, 2014 at 3:01 pm
Quote:As I said, there is a grain of truth there. Eating meat increases risk of cardiovascular disease.
Yep, based on the data you provided (go look, enrico, that's what science looks like) I'll give you that. Although as always there is the correlation =/= causality issue with cohort studies.
I think it's a risk I'm willing to run. For me I'm not sure eschewing meat would make me live longer, just die later  .
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