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Poll: Which is the most Rational Moral Philosophy?
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Altruism
57.14%
8 57.14%
Egoism
42.86%
6 42.86%
Total 14 vote(s) 100%
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Altruism or Egoism?
#11
RE: Altruism or Egoism?
(February 23, 2014 at 8:14 pm)EgoRaptor Wrote: bumpity
I'd say that self-resurrecting one's own thread after it died a natural death is a dick move. Except in the case of this thread, it just confirms your view that you are an egoist Big Grin
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#12
RE: Altruism or Egoism?
Just gonna throw it out there: we have a rule against resurrecting a thread if nobody has posted in it for thirty days or more. Dodgy
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#13
RE: Altruism or Egoism?
(February 25, 2014 at 3:57 am)Esquilax Wrote: Just gonna throw it out there: we have a rule against resurrecting a thread if nobody has posted in it for thirty days or more. Dodgy

Yeah but he's an egoist so fuck your rules?

Or maybe he made his donation and the rules don't apply? I haven't looked.
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#14
RE: Altruism or Egoism?
Well, I voted Altruist. I think it's more beneficial not only to myself, but to my community, therefore ensuring a better world. But, I agree with everything in Tartarus Sauce's post. One cannot be purely altruistic...even the act of giving soothes our egos, doesn't it?
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#15
RE: Altruism or Egoism?
(January 6, 2014 at 4:23 pm)EgoRaptor Wrote: I myself am a staunch egoist. I was wondering whether other members of the forum subscribe to egoist or altruist philosophy.
Truth is, we ALL exhibit both natures. It's not an either/or proposition.
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#16
RE: Altruism or Egoism?
The poll question is "Which is the most Rational Moral Philosophy?" with the choice of altruism or egoism. I think that is context-dependent. The person who is in a "every man for himself" type of situation would rationally choose egoism and seek his own benefit, even if it is at the expense of others. The person in the more common communal or societal setting will rationally prefer altruism, since his own situation would be improved by contributing to the well-being of the larger group.

In my present situation, as the citizen of a modern society, altruism works as a rational moral philosophy better than egoism. That is, if I was limited to only making altruistic or egotistic choices, instead of selecting based on circumstances.
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#17
RE: Altruism or Egoism?
I am committed to altruism in any way I can manifest it. I enjoy the utilitarianism of a good deed performed without the expectancy of a reciprocal gesture - it engenders me with a happiness otherwise reserved for personal attainment and achievement. It provides me with an intrinsic sense of worth.

I am not beyond egoism, however, as I am frequently and rather candidly aware of what pleases me and what provides another type of happiness within a utilitarian outlook. Happiness is the absence of pain and the presence of pleasure in this case, thus, as with any other human, I am always interested in removing myself from pain and assuring myself of pleasure.
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#18
RE: Altruism or Egoism?
Whether or not people want to be honest with themselves, they are selfish. Are you feeding other people before yourself and your family? Even many of the supposedly altruistic things that people do are ultimately to make themselves feel good. This however is also why I find philosophies like Objectivism or LeVeyian Satanism to be totally irrelevant. People don't need to be told to be selfish. People are selfish by nature.
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#19
RE: Altruism or Egoism?
Oh, crap. Ego got banned? I hope my little comment didn't contribute to that.
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#20
RE: Altruism or Egoism?
(February 25, 2014 at 9:30 pm)bennyboy Wrote: Oh, crap. Ego got banned? I hope my little comment didn't contribute to that.

Nobody ever got in serious trouble for a gratuitous thread bump.

Nope, this one tried real hard to be that nail that sticks up - and we all know what happens to those.
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