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Benedict XVI defrocked nearly 400 priests in two years
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Benedict XVI defrocked nearly 400 priests in two years
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25788864

Quote: Close to 400 priests were defrocked in only two years by the former Pope Benedict XVI over claims of child abuse, the Vatican has confirmed.

Vatican spokesman Federico Lombardi initially said the AP report had been based on a mistaken reading of data.

But he later retracted his statement, confirming to the BBC that the story was correct.

The latest statistics reveal the number of priests defrocked in 2011 and 2012 was more than double the 171 priests removed in 2008 and 2009, when the Vatican first provided figures.

The Vatican also sent another 400 cases to either be tried by a Church tribunal or to be dealt with administratively, AP reports.

Nothing surprising here, but the question that bothers me is why are the 400 cases being tried by the church, why are they not being dealt with by the police (or is child abuse no longer a crime?)


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RE: Benedict XVI defrocked nearly 400 priests in two years
(January 18, 2014 at 12:51 pm)zebo-the-fat Wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25788864



Nothing surprising here, but the question that bothers me is why are the 400 cases being tried by the church, why are they not being dealt with by the police (or is child abuse no longer a crime?)

Wikipedia Wrote:Crimen sollicitationis (Latin: crime of solicitation) is the title of a 1962 document ("Instruction") of the Holy Office codifying procedures to be followed in cases of priests or bishops of the Catholic Church accused of having used the sacrament of Penance to make sexual advances to penitents.

It repeated, with additions, the contents of an identically named instruction issued in 1922 by the same office.

The 1962 document, approved by Pope John XXIII and signed by Cardinal Alfredo Ottaviani, Secretary of the Holy Office, was addressed to "all Patriarchs, Archbishops, Bishops and other Local Ordinaries, including those of Eastern Rite". It gave specific instructions on how to carry out the rules in the Code of Canon Law: on dealing with such cases, and directed that the same procedures be used when dealing with denunciations of homosexual, paedophile or zoophile behaviour by clerics. Dioceses were to use the instruction for their own guidance and keep it in their archives for confidential documents; they were not to publish the instruction nor produce commentaries on it.

Crimen sollicitationis remained in effect until 18 May 2001, when it was replaced by new norms promulgated by the papal motu proprio Sacramentorum sanctitatis tutela of 30 April of the same year.

Quote: In more recent times, in order to avert these and connected delicts, the Supreme Sacred Congregation of the Holy Office, through the Instruction Crimen sollicitationis, addressed to all Patriarchs, Archbishops, Bishops, and other local Ordinaries “even of an Oriental Rite” on March 16, 1962, established a manner of proceeding in such cases, inasmuch as judicial competence had been attributed exclusively to it, which competence could be exercised either administratively or through a judicial process. It is to be kept in mind that an Instruction of this kind had the force of law since the Supreme Pontiff, according to the norm of can. 247, § 1 of the Codex Iuris Canonici promulgated in 1917, presided over the Congregation of the Holy Office, and the Instruction proceeded from his own authority, with the Cardinal at the time only performing the function of Secretary.

The Supreme Pontiff, Pope Paul VI, of happy memory, by the Apostolic Constitution on the Roman Curia, Regimini Ecclesiae Universae, issued on August 15, 1967, confirmed the Congregation’s judicial and administrative competence in proceeding “according to its amended and approved norms”.

Finally, by the authority with which we are invested, in the Apostolic Constitution, Pastor Bonus, promulgated on June 28, 1988, we expressly established, “[The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith] examines delicts against the faith and more grave delicts whether against morals or committed in the celebration of the sacraments, which have been referred to it and, whenever necessary, proceeds to declare or impose canonical sanctions according to the norm of both common and proper law,” thereby further confirming and determining the judicial competence of the same Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith as an Apostolic Tribunal.

in English

In other words, the more things change, the more they stay the same.


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RE: Benedict XVI defrocked nearly 400 priests in two years
So much for the bullshit about it only being a "handful."
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RE: Benedict XVI defrocked nearly 400 priests in two years
Because the Church has a lot of political pull, and people tend to give the church what they want without thinking.
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The bastards only have political pull because people give them what they want without thinking.

Time to start thinking, people! This bunch should be broken like every other criminal conspiracy.
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