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Christians, would you kill for God?
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H0ary H0bbit Religious Views: “Never to suffer would never to have been blessed.” - Edgar Allan Poe RE: Christians, would you kill for God?
February 25, 2014 at 7:28 pm
(This post was last modified: February 25, 2014 at 7:36 pm by fr0d0.)
(February 25, 2014 at 7:07 pm)Mr. Moncrieff Wrote: Define taking life lawfully. Lawfully - as prescribed by a perfect judge (February 25, 2014 at 7:18 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: I'd like an explanation for your claim that killing children is justifiable. A perfect judge can make that call.  (February 25, 2014 at 7:28 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:(February 25, 2014 at 7:07 pm)Mr. Moncrieff Wrote: Define taking life lawfully. Do you believe that 'God' communicates with you in some way? You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
H0ary H0bbit Religious Views: “Never to suffer would never to have been blessed.” - Edgar Allan Poe RE: Christians, would you kill for God?
February 25, 2014 at 7:34 pm
(This post was last modified: February 25, 2014 at 7:35 pm by fr0d0.)
(February 25, 2014 at 7:28 pm)TaraJo Wrote: This man, sincerely believed god talked to him and wanted him to kill the leaders of the LDS church. How do we know if the killing was just or not? I certainly wouldn't know. In a court limited to incomplete knowledge, I would convict the man of murder. That has no bearing on the ultimate justice of the man's actions. Only a perfect judge could know that. (February 25, 2014 at 7:32 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: Do you believe that 'God' communicates with you in some way? I do (February 25, 2014 at 7:34 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:(February 25, 2014 at 7:28 pm)TaraJo Wrote: This man, sincerely believed god talked to him and wanted him to kill the leaders of the LDS church. So, if you received a communication from 'God' that ordered you to go kill the old woman that lives down the street from you, would you do it? You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.  (February 25, 2014 at 7:34 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:(February 25, 2014 at 7:28 pm)TaraJo Wrote: This man, sincerely believed god talked to him and wanted him to kill the leaders of the LDS church. Which is kinda how I'm living my life: if god has a problem with anything I'm doing, he's more than welcome to let me know. So far, his silence speaks volumes about either his apathy or his nonexistance. If god wants me to have more than my poor, pitiful, incomplete human knowledge, he'll let me know.
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H0ary H0bbit Religious Views: “Never to suffer would never to have been blessed.” - Edgar Allan Poe RE: Christians, would you kill for God?
February 25, 2014 at 7:44 pm
(This post was last modified: February 25, 2014 at 7:45 pm by fr0d0.)
(February 25, 2014 at 7:38 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: So, if you received a communication from 'God' that ordered you to go kill the old woman that lives down the street from you, would you do it? We've been here recently, and I can go further now If I was sure that this was God instructing me (I have no idea how because God has never communicated with me in that way), and I had such faith that I can't imagine now, then I would have to. A court would convict me of murder. I would know that when committing the act. That's all way to hypothetical  (February 25, 2014 at 7:44 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:(February 25, 2014 at 7:38 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: So, if you received a communication from 'God' that ordered you to go kill the old woman that lives down the street from you, would you do it? When you hear about someone being convicted of killing their kids or someone else, and they claim that 'God' told them to, do you actually believe that they may be telling the truth? You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
H0ary H0bbit Religious Views: “Never to suffer would never to have been blessed.” - Edgar Allan Poe RE: Christians, would you kill for God?
February 25, 2014 at 7:52 pm
(This post was last modified: February 25, 2014 at 7:53 pm by fr0d0.)
(February 25, 2014 at 7:40 pm)TaraJo Wrote: Which is kinda how I'm living my life: if god has a problem with anything I'm doing, he's more than welcome to let me know. Perfect justice supersedes our own, and sets us free. (February 25, 2014 at 7:51 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: When you hear about someone being convicted of killing their kids or someone else, and they claim that 'God' told them to, do you actually believe that they may be telling the truth? No |
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