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Christians, prove your minds aren't molested by fear.
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RE: Christians, prove your minds aren't molested by fear.
March 1, 2014 at 10:06 pm
Alrighty then...

You're saying that you have "perfect justice", Frods? What does that mean?
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RE: Christians, prove your minds aren't molested by fear.
March 1, 2014 at 10:09 pm
You know what justice is Rahul. You know when it fails. This kind doesn't.
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RE: Christians, prove your minds aren't molested by fear.
March 1, 2014 at 10:12 pm
(March 1, 2014 at 10:09 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: You know what justice is Rahul. You know when it fails. This kind doesn't.

*grins* No, my friend. I'm not sure I do.

I don't know really how to respond. Are you talking about justice of salvation mentioned in the bible?
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RE: Christians, prove your minds aren't molested by fear.
March 1, 2014 at 10:17 pm
No I'm talking about justice. Fairness. Just deserts. Where every crime gets what it deserves.
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RE: Christians, prove your minds aren't molested by fear.
March 1, 2014 at 10:22 pm
(March 1, 2014 at 10:17 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: No I'm talking about justice. Fairness. Just deserts. Where every crime gets what it deserves.

Yeah, I understand the concept. I believe it to be mythical but I get it. How do you have it?
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RE: Christians, prove your minds aren't molested by fear.
March 1, 2014 at 10:29 pm
(March 1, 2014 at 10:17 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: No I'm talking about justice. Fairness. Just deserts. Where every crime gets what it deserves.

If you had said every criminal gets what he deserves, but then it opens the question up to multiple ways of dealing with criminals, depending on what the goal is. How you can make that balance of goals "perfect" must be a neat trick.

Crimes in themselves don't have just desserts. That's why we have sentencing hearings. To adjust the punishment to the unique circumstances of the criminal and his act.
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RE: Christians, prove your minds aren't molested by fear.
March 1, 2014 at 10:29 pm (This post was last modified: March 1, 2014 at 10:32 pm by fr0d0.)
It's in a jar under my bed

Or

I don't believe it to be mythical Tongue

If, big if, you believe in God, it's a fringe benefit. Or maybe it's the actual deal.



(March 1, 2014 at 10:29 pm)rasetsu Wrote:
(March 1, 2014 at 10:17 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: No I'm talking about justice. Fairness. Just deserts. Where every crime gets what it deserves.

If you had said every criminal gets what he deserves, but then it opens the question up to multiple ways of dealing with criminals, depending on what the goal is. How you can make that balance of goals "perfect" must be a neat trick.

Crimes in themselves don't have just desserts. That's why we have sentencing hearings. To adjust the punishment to the unique circumstances of the criminal and his act.

Screw you ms perfect Tongue

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RE: Christians, prove your minds aren't molested by fear.
March 1, 2014 at 10:36 pm (This post was last modified: March 1, 2014 at 10:38 pm by Rahul.)
(March 1, 2014 at 10:29 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: If, big if, you believe in God, it's a fringe benefit. Or maybe it's the actual deal.

Well the Christian god certainly isn't a fan of perfect justice. He would condemn an honest, gentle, loving, faithful human to eternal torment just for not believing in his existence and not accepting his sacrifice of Jesus because of insufficient evidence.

On the other hand a mass murderer and rapist could repent later in life after destroying thousands of lives and live for an eternity in bliss. Even if he never even paid anything at all for his crimes in his short, earth bound existence.
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RE: Christians, prove your minds aren't molested by fear.
March 1, 2014 at 10:45 pm
Dogma: receive Jesus and repent your sins
English: bad stuff spoils your life

= justice what I'm talking about bitch

Rapist/ mass murderer ... how do you know?
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RE: Christians, prove your minds aren't molested by fear.
March 1, 2014 at 10:52 pm
(March 1, 2014 at 10:45 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Dogma: receive Jesus and repent your sins
English: bad stuff spoils your life

= justice what I'm talking about bitch

Rapist/ mass murderer ... how do you know?

I'm guessing they've read that so-called Perfect Book most Christians throw themselves down to.
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