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March 6, 2014 at 10:53 am
(This post was last modified: March 6, 2014 at 10:55 am by Mister Agenda.)
(March 5, 2014 at 5:45 pm)JesusLover1 Wrote: Fine guys, just tell me, as a theist who is skeptical of his faith, could you please tell me some introductory articles or literature that help debunk religious claims and so why the scientific method is valid? If you want 'easy-to-digest', you could try The God Delusion by Dawkins. If you don't mind a deeper wade, I think Atheism: The Case Against God by George H. Smith is a good, comprehensive overview (and a PDF is on the interwebz). If you want someone to cut it up for you, there are forums like this one, JREF, RatSkep, or The Thinking Atheist. 
Maybe some youtube channels would help?
Darkmatter2525 and Nonstampcollector are just a few that come to mind right away. If you're more interested in the science, and not so much atheism itself, you can watch all kinds of documentaries on youtube, or interviews with scientists like Tyson, Kaku, Dawkins, Krauss... 
The Atheist Experience is a pretty general discussion show and covers alot of ground.
 
H0ary H0bbit Religious Views: “Never to suffer would never to have been blessed.” - Edgar Allan Poe RE: Ok I admit it
March 6, 2014 at 3:27 pm
(This post was last modified: March 6, 2014 at 3:29 pm by fr0d0.)
(March 5, 2014 at 6:39 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:(March 5, 2014 at 6:15 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Scientific methods debunking metaphysics. Yeah that should be good. You clearly have no idea about metaphysics. Answers to prayer are metaphysical claims. Creation is a metaphysical claim. God communicating is a metaphysical claim. Are you really that ignorant? RE: Ok I admit it
March 6, 2014 at 3:31 pm
(This post was last modified: March 6, 2014 at 3:31 pm by ThePinsir.)
(March 6, 2014 at 3:27 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:(March 5, 2014 at 6:39 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: When metaphysics is claimed to effect the natural world, yeah, it is open to scientific inquiry. So god gets another cosmic loophole? Don't think so. If god interacts with this plane of existence, manipulates it somehow, it is within the scope of science to measure. I think you missed the whole point of that post.  (March 6, 2014 at 3:27 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:(March 5, 2014 at 6:39 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: When metaphysics is claimed to effect the natural world, yeah, it is open to scientific inquiry. WOW! Was I really that unclear? I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that it was my fault in communicating my point. I'm not saying that the (magical) metaphysical process itself is testable. BUT, if the metaphysical process in question effects the natural world, the effects on the natural world are testable. You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
H0ary H0bbit Religious Views: “Never to suffer would never to have been blessed.” - Edgar Allan Poe
Sheeshk I guess you really don't get it.
There nothing magical about it. Any physical object we project metaphysical process to cannot have proof of the metaphysical action. Otherwise it couldn't be be a metaphysical action. Unless you have an alternate understanding of metaphysical. Is it really that hard? (March 6, 2014 at 4:29 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Sheeshk I guess you really don't get it. Therefore, the "metaphysical action" didn't happen 
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