Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: November 25, 2024, 7:44 pm

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Evidence for god? Convince me! [CHALLENGE]
#91
RE: Evidence for god? Convince me! [CHALLENGE]
(March 18, 2014 at 1:09 am)Pickup_shonuff Wrote:
(March 18, 2014 at 12:38 am)psychoslice Wrote: I think we all make our own world, everyone has there own concept of what the world is, at the end of the day everything is subjective, what is out there is part of all that is connected, we only see what we are able to see through our senses. But the Cosmos cannot be reduced to what we think it should be, or how we think it works, of course we can find a lot out, but again its only what our senses allows us, beyond that, WE KNOW NOTHING.

I feel that there are some who can sense what is beyond the mind, after all we are all connected, this experience is then put into the best language that we can use, the experience is beyond the mind, and so we can only use metaphors, and pointers that point another to that which was experienced.

I think most atheist miss out on this experience, for the reason that they are too much into the mind, if there is anything else that is above the mind they will always miss out. Yes so we need to keep an open mind and not a closed mind.

You're saying that there's sensual experiences outside of the mind? Where do those reside? In invisible jars tied to the ears? All experiences begin in the mind but not all descriptions of these experiences are equally helpful in understanding their structures or root causes. That's what science is for. It cuts through everyone's BS.

Science may think they cut through the bullshit, but what they end up with is their own bullshit, that is proven through their own conclusions, of what bullshit they have already discovered, in the end its all bullshit. This bullshit only has meaning to us as humans, but the fact is we as humans can never know what is beyond the bullshit, we are really, stuck in bullshit.
Reply
#92
RE: Evidence for god? Convince me! [CHALLENGE]
(March 18, 2014 at 1:14 am)psychoslice Wrote:
(March 18, 2014 at 1:09 am)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: You're saying that there's sensual experiences outside of the mind? Where do those reside? In invisible jars tied to the ears? All experiences begin in the mind but not all descriptions of these experiences are equally helpful in understanding their structures or root causes. That's what science is for. It cuts through everyone's BS.

Science may think they cut through the bullshit, but what they end up with is their own bullshit, that is proven through their own conclusions, of what bullshit they have already discovered, in the end its all bullshit. This bullshit only has meaning to us as humans, but the fact is we as humans can never know what is beyond the bullshit, we are really, stuck in bullshit.

What a bunch of bullshit you just said.
Reply
#93
RE: Evidence for god? Convince me! [CHALLENGE]
(March 18, 2014 at 1:15 am)tor Wrote:
(March 18, 2014 at 1:14 am)psychoslice Wrote: Science may think they cut through the bullshit, but what they end up with is their own bullshit, that is proven through their own conclusions, of what bullshit they have already discovered, in the end its all bullshit. This bullshit only has meaning to us as humans, but the fact is we as humans can never know what is beyond the bullshit, we are really, stuck in bullshit.

What a bunch of bullshit you just said.

That's it, its all bullshit, as long as we believe we can know everything through our limited mere minds.
Reply
#94
RE: Evidence for god? Convince me! [CHALLENGE]
(March 18, 2014 at 1:20 am)psychoslice Wrote:
(March 18, 2014 at 1:15 am)tor Wrote: What a bunch of bullshit you just said.

That's it, its all bullshit, as long as we believe we can know everything through our limited mere minds.

Do you know that earth is a sphere or not?
Reply
#95
RE: Evidence for god? Convince me! [CHALLENGE]
(March 18, 2014 at 1:24 am)tor Wrote:
(March 18, 2014 at 1:20 am)psychoslice Wrote: That's it, its all bullshit, as long as we believe we can know everything through our limited mere minds.

Do you know that earth is a sphere or not?

It doesn't matter to me, we are here and whatever it is doesn't concern me.
Reply
#96
RE: Evidence for god? Convince me! [CHALLENGE]
(March 18, 2014 at 1:29 am)psychoslice Wrote:
(March 18, 2014 at 1:24 am)tor Wrote: Do you know that earth is a sphere or not?

It doesn't matter to me, we are here and whatever it is doesn't concern me.

I say the earth is a sphere and is NOT flat. Did I say bullshit right now?

And if someone says that the earth is flat and NOT a sphere which one of us is telling the truth?
Reply
#97
RE: Evidence for god? Convince me! [CHALLENGE]
(March 18, 2014 at 1:30 am)tor Wrote:
(March 18, 2014 at 1:29 am)psychoslice Wrote: It doesn't matter to me, we are here and whatever it is doesn't concern me.

I say the earth is a sphere and is NOT flat. Did I say bullshit right now?

Yes you did, why even say it is a sphere, its what it is, I don't argue if its flat or not, but yes to those who are concerned, it maybe knowledge that they will like to know, that is knowledge from our senses, its only one level of knowledge, there is much more to it than that, this is why I don't want to answer you question in the way you would like me to.
Reply
#98
RE: Evidence for god? Convince me! [CHALLENGE]
(March 18, 2014 at 1:35 am)psychoslice Wrote:
(March 18, 2014 at 1:30 am)tor Wrote: I say the earth is a sphere and is NOT flat. Did I say bullshit right now?

Yes you did, why even say it is a sphere, its what it is, I don't argue if its flat or not, but yes to those who are concerned, it maybe knowledge that they will like to know, that is knowledge from our senses, its only one level of knowledge, there is much more to it than that, this is why I don't want to answer you question in the way you would like me to.
Do you have any other way of knowing things other than senses? Big Grin
Reply
#99
RE: Evidence for god? Convince me! [CHALLENGE]
(March 18, 2014 at 1:36 am)tor Wrote:
(March 18, 2014 at 1:35 am)psychoslice Wrote: Yes you did, why even say it is a sphere, its what it is, I don't argue if its flat or not, but yes to those who are concerned, it maybe knowledge that they will like to know, that is knowledge from our senses, its only one level of knowledge, there is much more to it than that, this is why I don't want to answer you question in the way you would like me to.
Do you have any other way of knowing things other than senses? Big Grin

Yes I have, but in the end it all comes through the senses, so what I experience beyond the senses can never be conceptualized, NEVER.
Reply
RE: Evidence for god? Convince me! [CHALLENGE]
(March 18, 2014 at 1:44 am)psychoslice Wrote:
(March 18, 2014 at 1:36 am)tor Wrote: Do you have any other way of knowing things other than senses? Big Grin

Yes I have, but in the end it all comes through the senses, so what I experience beyond the senses can never be conceptualized, NEVER.

Which means we both can only know world through our senses.
So I say that this forum exists. Am I telling the truth?
Reply



Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  I'm a Universalist - Can anyone convince me of 'Eternal Damnationism'? The Kreisel 16 1979 February 26, 2021 at 3:02 am
Last Post: beepete
  Can someone show me the evidence of the bullshit bible articles? I believe in Harry Potter 36 5899 November 3, 2019 at 7:33 pm
Last Post: Jehanne
  If evidence for god is in abundance, why is faith necessary? Silver 181 43491 November 11, 2017 at 10:11 pm
Last Post: Cyberman
  Atheists don't realize asking for evidence of God is a strawman ErGingerbreadMandude 240 33649 November 10, 2017 at 3:11 pm
Last Post: Cyberman
Question Why do you people say there is no evidence,when you can't be bothered to look for it? Jaguar 74 23301 November 5, 2017 at 7:17 pm
Last Post: Pat Mustard
  Personal evidence Silver 19 6660 November 4, 2017 at 12:27 pm
Last Post: c152
  Is Accepting Christian Evidence Special Pleading? SteveII 768 269714 September 28, 2017 at 10:42 pm
Last Post: Kernel Sohcahtoa
  Do Extraordinary Claims Require Extraordinary Evidence? SteveII 643 156461 August 12, 2017 at 1:36 am
Last Post: vorlon13
  Convince me dyresand 58 11892 December 3, 2015 at 11:52 pm
Last Post: dyresand
  Evidence: The Gathering Randy Carson 530 103877 September 25, 2015 at 5:14 pm
Last Post: abaris



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)