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The dumbest fucking arguments you've ever heard.
#81
RE: The dumbest fucking arguments you've ever heard.
(March 24, 2014 at 5:35 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: Light travels instantly in one direction.....I kid you not.

This one's actually interesting.

The version of this probably used is the "Anisotropic Synchrony Convention," as framed by fundie "scientist" Jason Lisle in his paper for the, ahem, Answers Research Journal.

It turns out "light travels the same speed in all directions" is a mathematical convention. Although there's absolutely no reason this shouldn't be the case, it cannot be proved, it seems.

Although it's way, way harder than doing physics with "all light travels at c in all directions," you can brute-force the math to also work with "light travels towards an observer at infinite speed and away from an observer at c/2." This is actually consistent with relativity. It's sort of analogous to brute-forcing the math of Newtonian physics to describe movement in relation to a non-obvious frame of reference (like, if we wanted to describe the movement of a car on earth from the frame of reference of an observer on Neptune, we could do it, but we'd have to add in terms for the rotation and revolution of the planets and it would be a mess).

The Anisotropic Synchrony Convention, though, is generally used not by physicists but by lunatics who somehow want to pretend it solves the Starlight Problem and suggests a young earth (it just so happens that Lisle is a physicist and a lunatic). And in that regard, almost certainly the context you heard it in, it is one of the dumbest fucking arguments anyone's ever heard.
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#82
RE: The dumbest fucking arguments you've ever heard.
(March 5, 2015 at 7:58 pm)Pandæmonium Wrote: Talking of stupid arguments, WLC is visiting my university soon for a debate. Half tempted to go.

If you do, ask him if he realizes his presuppositionalism destroys any credibility he has when presenting his position as good philosophy.
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#83
RE: The dumbest fucking arguments you've ever heard.
One of the dumbest, and most repetitive, involves a place called Coral Castle . . .

Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:

"You did WHAT?  With WHO?  WHERE???"
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#84
RE: The dumbest fucking arguments you've ever heard.
The petty word gymnastics that Buggy practices in This thread...
"There remain four irreducible objections to religious faith: that it wholly misrepresents the origins of man and the cosmos, that because of this original error it manages to combine the maximum servility with the maximum of solipsism, that it is both the result and the cause of dangerous sexual repression, and that it is ultimately grounded on wish-thinking." ~Christopher Hitchens, god is not Great

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#85
RE: The dumbest fucking arguments you've ever heard.
(March 5, 2015 at 9:35 pm)Beccs Wrote: One of the dumbest, and most repetitive, involves a place called Coral Castle . . .

The last time I heard the phrase 'ley lines' was over twenty years ago when my new neighbor was showing me his Rifts source books.
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#86
RE: The dumbest fucking arguments you've ever heard.
(March 1, 2015 at 5:43 am)abaris Wrote:
(March 1, 2015 at 3:53 am)Aisha Wrote: "I worked with a lot of scientists (he meant archaeologists) who told me the story of creation did happen"

Apart from having my doubts about the real existence of these archeologists, how would they come to that conclusion? Did they unearth Adam and Eve's bones?


Excuses for this late reaction.

I don't know how they came to that conclusion, of course before I got the chance to go into the matter he told me that this was not a good time or place to talk about these things, allowing an easy escape for himself. Had it not been an online conversation but a real life talk I would have definitely continued to ask him these exact questions.
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#87
RE: The dumbest fucking arguments you've ever heard.
A lot of people died, but one baby lived...god!
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#88
RE: The dumbest fucking arguments you've ever heard.
God is real because he has to be.
I've heard this so many times that it has decreases how intelligent I think humans are.
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#89
RE: The dumbest fucking arguments you've ever heard.
Can't remember if I did this one already:

God must exist because otherwise nothing has any meaning!

It's not even an argument, and it just makes me sad that people think that people.
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#90
RE: The dumbest fucking arguments you've ever heard.
Evil is part of God's wonderful plan.
The Lord works in mysterious ways.
What right do you have to complain when God created you?
"God is good" is the assertion and all contrary evidence and arguments only reflect our limited understanding. Smile
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