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The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
#51
RE: The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
How do you go about demonstrating something as obscure as "The Truth of Scripture"?
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#52
RE: The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
The tomb was empty.

That would be the tomb of Joseph of Aramathea (spelling? - looks almost right). No-one knows who he was. There was no Aramathea. All a bit suspect.


So the empty tomb might mean the dead body that was in it got up and walked out, or that the Nice Mr. Jo. A. was a necrophile and disappeared with the body and a large quantity of lube.
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#53
RE: The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
Hell, having an empty tomb isn't even really that big of a deal. My tomb is empty right now, you don't see me crowing about how I'm the son of god.

Egotistical, that's what Jesus is. Rolleyes
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#54
RE: The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
They should of left jesus on the cross for a few days and teach him a lesson not to play dead...
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#55
RE: The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
(March 29, 2014 at 2:57 pm)Revelation777 Wrote:
(March 29, 2014 at 2:36 pm)Esquilax Wrote: I am honestly baffled as to why you didn't go on to present some evidence. Now we're all just standing around here looking awkward and avoiding eye contact. Dodgy

Tomb is empty

(March 29, 2014 at 2:54 pm)ThomM Wrote: Sorry - but there is NOT a single piece of evidence that is NOT hearsay - that proves that the christ was anything but a religious Myth

The claim that millions of lives were transformed -then you accept the Buddhism has done the same thing

The bible - which cannot be verified as to author - contains enough fairy tales - legends - and incorrect things to render is useless as a way to prove anything. HOWEVER _ since it is a religious document - and was created by the two religions - it is the CLAIM - not proof.

So your claim has been stated - support it with proof OUTSIDE Of the bible - which we do not accept as being real - nor do the majority of people in the world.

His tomb is empty, that is enough for me.

(March 29, 2014 at 9:15 am)Bad Writer Wrote: Rev, you need to be searching for evidence too. You shouldn't just stop at the first god claim that comes your way and call it good. If your search doesn't turn up sufficient evidence, then what do you think that might mean?

Some of the evidences I go by is my changed life, the Truth of Scripture, and the changed lives of others


Sorry - but YOU have failed to prove that the scriptures are true - you have yet to prove the christ existed

Quoting the scriptures does not proof them - it only proves YOU have nothing to prove them with

AS far as how the scriptures have changed others - I could say the same things about the writtings of Buddha - and Confucius - and there is NOTHING in the bible regarding moral and ethics that is original to the bible. ALL of it existed in the writings of prior religions or prior people.

SO we accept that YOU admit you have NO real evidence and therefore reject your claims
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#56
RE: The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
(March 29, 2014 at 2:57 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: Tomb is empty

Which one?

There are currently three that claim to have been the real deal.

Quote:His tomb is empty, that is enough for me.
"Look! Nothing!"

"Nothing proves something, right?"

You know what would be better proof than nothing?

SOMETHING!

Quote:Some of the evidences I go by is my changed life, the Truth of Scripture, and the changed lives of others

Every religion claims its adherents undergo transformative experiences. Glad it works for you. That's not proof.
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RE: The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
(March 29, 2014 at 3:48 pm)truthBtold Wrote: They should of left jesus on the cross for a few days and teach him a lesson not to play dead...

The Romans normally did.

If the Romans executed you by crucifixion, your corpse stayed up on that cross until it rotted off. This was intended as a gruesome warning to the population, "don't fuck with us or our laws". The Romans never allowed anyone who was crucified a burial.
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#58
RE: The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
So you're saying Jesus' buddies stole his body from the cross and buried it in a hidden location? The Romans probably followed them and took back what they had rightfully killed when the disciples weren't looking. Bam! Empty tomb mystery solved!
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#59
RE: The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
(March 28, 2014 at 10:39 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: We are reminded of this event every day. Not a day goes by where you don't hear His name mentioned, hear a song praising Him, drive by a church, see someone wearing a cross, or hear a verse from the Bible.

Jesus predicted His death and resurrection while He was alive. He tomb was empty on three days after His death. He appeared to His disciples. These men's lives were changed and God used them to change the world. Paul and 500 others have seen the risen Christ. The early church grew greatly even with terrible persecution speaks of the power of this Truth. Greatest evidence is the transformation of millions of lives of born again believers.

Cool story bro.

Now prove it Smile
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#60
RE: The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
Quote:His tomb is empty, that is enough for me.

Your head is empty. That's enough for me!
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