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RE: What would it take for you to believe in God?
April 29, 2014 at 9:56 pm
(April 29, 2014 at 9:53 pm)te1148 Wrote: One thing I want to establish is that we all believe certain things by faith.
You do realize the difference between religious faith and secular faith, correct?
Religious faith:
I have faith that god will allow the sun to rise tomorrow.
Religious faith is not based on any fact that any deity has a hand in whether or not the sun rises.
Secular faith:
I have faith that the sun will rise tomorrow.
That is a fact, because we daily see the sun raise around the same time.
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RE: What would it take for you to believe in God?
April 29, 2014 at 9:57 pm
(April 29, 2014 at 9:53 pm)te1148 Wrote: (April 29, 2014 at 9:47 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Oh, so this is how the conversation's going to go: everything's just an opinion, everyone has faith because they can't know stuff certainly, every view is as equal as every other view...
Oh, except for god, because that's what the person advocating for solipsism believes in.
Change the record, dude. 
I certainly don't think that every view is created equal. I think I'm right. You think you're right. But clearly one of us is wrong. One thing I want to establish is that we all believe certain things by faith or without testable evidence. So saying that you only believe in what can be scientifically tested is a little disingenuous.
And we've demonstrated that all your examples so far are, indeed testable except the god claims.
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RE: What would it take for you to believe in God?
April 29, 2014 at 10:07 pm
(April 29, 2014 at 10:05 pm)te1148 Wrote: Why are you on this site then?
Because he is an atheist.
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RE: What would it take for you to believe in God?
April 29, 2014 at 10:07 pm
We have had people in recent years claiming to be god. We have considered them evil cult leaders and killed them. Jesus, if he ever existed at all, was likely no more than another crazy that history greatly exagerrated on.
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RE: What would it take for you to believe in God?
April 29, 2014 at 10:09 pm
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(April 29, 2014 at 10:08 pm)te1148 Wrote: That doesn't at all answer the question.
It answers the question perfectly.
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RE: What would it take for you to believe in God?
April 29, 2014 at 10:11 pm
What's disingenuous is you misrepresenting your purpose here.
You clearly don't understand the first thing about evolution, and you are playing it fast and loose with definitions. Pot<--->Kettle.
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