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RE: And if you are wrong , eternity is a long time.
May 31, 2014 at 6:01 pm
Your internet broken or something? Do your own fuckin' legwork.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: And if you are wrong , eternity is a long time.
May 31, 2014 at 6:04 pm
(May 31, 2014 at 6:00 pm)Tonus Wrote: (May 31, 2014 at 5:51 pm)Artur Axmann Wrote: But that's not for us to decide.What I'm saying is cover your rear end ,just in case.
Whatever denomination appeals to you is O.K... Is that how you worship the Christian god? "I'm not sure what your game is, Yahweh, but I'll act like I care so that you can reward me with heaven if I bought the right ticket."
You don't really seem to care about religion except to the extent that it might inconvenience you if you ignore it too much. And if you are going to be inconvenienced now, then everyone else should share in it so you can pretend that everyone is laughing with you and not at you. What makes you think that any god would reward someone who uses religious belief as some sort of confidence game? And why would I join any religion that uses such an idiotic method of recruitment?
I'm not saying that's me or anything.
I'm not trying to complicate it..
All I'm asking you to consider is what do you really have to lose in comparison with an eternity to lose..
keep it simple.
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RE: And if you are wrong , eternity is a long time.
May 31, 2014 at 6:08 pm
(May 31, 2014 at 6:04 pm)Artur Axmann Wrote: (May 31, 2014 at 6:00 pm)Tonus Wrote: Is that how you worship the Christian god? "I'm not sure what your game is, Yahweh, but I'll act like I care so that you can reward me with heaven if I bought the right ticket."
You don't really seem to care about religion except to the extent that it might inconvenience you if you ignore it too much. And if you are going to be inconvenienced now, then everyone else should share in it so you can pretend that everyone is laughing with you and not at you. What makes you think that any god would reward someone who uses religious belief as some sort of confidence game? And why would I join any religion that uses such an idiotic method of recruitment?
I'm not saying that's me or anything.
I'm not trying to complicate it..
All I'm asking you to consider is what do you really have to lose in comparison with an eternity to lose..
keep it simple.
I already am. Not having to follow any God is simpler than having to figure out which God to choose.
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RE: And if you are wrong , eternity is a long time.
May 31, 2014 at 6:08 pm
(May 31, 2014 at 3:30 pm)Artur Axmann Wrote: (May 31, 2014 at 12:44 pm)Irrational Wrote: I don't know what the risks are. And I don't have access to any evidence showing that I should consider those risks. Furthermore, what God and what eternity are we speaking of here? Allah? Eternity in Janneh or Jouhannam?
Provide evidence and then we can discuss the risks. Otherwise, there's no point in living life as if God exists.
O.K . so let's just say , You are right and I'm wrong ..
What have you really GAINED?
But you are putting yourself at a greater risk,because If I'm right and you are in fact WRONG!
Then you have an endless eternity in pain and misery to deal with.
its the risk/reward ratio you have to deal with.
In fact many atheists do exactly that. and that's why we have so many deathbed confessions. and conversions. its called covering your bases and your arses.
Convincing people to convert when they are in a vulnerable position does nothing for your case. If you're wrong, I've gained the time I'd otherwise have wasted, the money I otherwise would have spent, and the dignity I would otherwise not have.
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RE: And if you are wrong , eternity is a long time.
May 31, 2014 at 6:09 pm
(May 31, 2014 at 6:04 pm)Artur Axmann Wrote: I'm not trying to complicate it.. Me either. That's why I wound up rejecting all gods.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
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RE: And if you are wrong , eternity is a long time.
May 31, 2014 at 6:13 pm
(May 31, 2014 at 6:08 pm)Chad32 Wrote: (May 31, 2014 at 3:30 pm)Artur Axmann Wrote: O.K . so let's just say , You are right and I'm wrong ..
What have you really GAINED?
But you are putting yourself at a greater risk,because If I'm right and you are in fact WRONG!
Then you have an endless eternity in pain and misery to deal with.
its the risk/reward ratio you have to deal with.
In fact many atheists do exactly that. and that's why we have so many deathbed confessions. and conversions. its called covering your bases and your arses.
Convincing people to convert when they are in a vulnerable position does nothing for your case. If you're wrong, I've gained the time I'd otherwise have wasted, the money I otherwise would have spent, and the dignity I would otherwise not have.
you're dreaming..
are you saying all the billions of believers in the world have no dignity?
and have wasted their valuable time . Time that can't be held on to..
What have you done with all your time . in excess of spent beliefs.
Are all the billions in the world stupid and you're the brilliant one?
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RE: And if you are wrong , eternity is a long time.
May 31, 2014 at 6:14 pm
Seriously dude. You've been asked by me numerous times in this thread to respond, and now by a moderator. I've reported you. You should probably stop ignoring me now.
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RE: And if you are wrong , eternity is a long time.
May 31, 2014 at 6:19 pm
(May 31, 2014 at 6:14 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: Seriously dude. You've been asked by me numerous times in this thread to respond, and now by a moderator. I've reported you. You should probably stop ignoring me now.
I never learned how to type that fast.. But don't let that matter. go ask your great question ,and ask it right now . while I patiently await . do it ..
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RE: And if you are wrong , eternity is a long time.
May 31, 2014 at 6:23 pm
How fast do you need to type? I count seven times you were directly addressed by becca on this over the last two days. Seriously, I can type faster than that with my dick.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: And if you are wrong , eternity is a long time.
May 31, 2014 at 6:24 pm
You know what, Artur? I've asked it five or six times already. I suggest you go back and find it, answer it, and then maybe you'll have a longer life on this forum. As it is, you're already on the mods' radar since I reported you, and I have a feeling you're thiiiiiiiis close to being banned.
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