Science was once a child of the church.

[Rampant.A.I.]

Maybe you should read it, and realize why your claim that the Catholic Church "fathered" science is laughable.

[mickiel]

Maybe you should read it, and realize why your claim that the Catholic Church "fathered" science is laughable.

Listen, its mostly an analogy; science once being a child of the church; I really mean the church influenced and controlled it. Which I think is interesting, the Roman catholic church was a very powerful thing at one time; who else do you know has treated science and manipulated it like the church has?

Its history man.

[Fidel_Castronaut]

History records that science once was a child of the church.

I can't help but feel this is just nonsense.

What field of 'science'? When?

You do realise that 'science', as a homogeneous term for the fields of the natural sciences, have been 'done' by humans for thousands of years before the RCC was even a thing?

[mickiel]

History records that science once was a child of the church.

I can't help but feel this is just nonsense.

What field of 'science'? When?

You do realise that 'science', as a homogeneous term for the fields of the natural sciences, have been 'done' by humans for thousands of years before the RCC was even a thing?

Its not nonsense, its history. In fact, the Vatican founded some areas of science, and " Re-founded" them;

http://www.livescience.com/27790-catholi...story.html

[Hoopington]

I can't help but feel this is just nonsense.

What field of 'science'? When?

You do realise that 'science', as a homogeneous term for the fields of the natural sciences, have been 'done' by humans for thousands of years before the RCC was even a thing?

Its not nonsense, its history. In fact, the Vatican founded some areas of science, and " Re-founded" them;

http://www.livescience.com/27790-catholi...story.html

History according to paedophiles.

I was about to go into a diatribe about not believing everything you read, but there's no point, you are a thundercunt.

[Cato]

Its not nonsense, its history. In fact, the Vatican founded some areas of science, and " Re-founded" them;

http://www.livescience.com/27790-catholi...story.html

This is the same article you previously posted, just from a different source. Do you know what tumultuous means? Did you bother reading the article?

The article is pretty clear in its description of how the church has been and continues to be at odds with science. The church now is forced to accept certain scientific discoveries because of overwhelming evidence, but the church has consistently rejected the science as it unfolded. I made this point pages ago and you post an article that validates my point.

[Mister Agenda]

And the church was its mother. A fact many Atheist seem to be unaware of. Or would soon forget. You would be surprised to see how many scientist were believers in God that actually founded some serious science.

That humans were doing science long before the Church came around is a fact that many Christians and Muslims seem unaware of. Or would soon Forget. You would be surprised how many scientists were believers in Osiris, Zeus, or no gods at all who founded some serious science.

I am not a religious man or a Christian, but I am often amused at how some Atheist seem to use science as a type of weapon against religion, not knowing that science was once a bedfellow with religion.

I don't believe you know what the words 'religious' or 'Christian' mean.

[mickiel]

Its not nonsense, its history. In fact, the Vatican founded some areas of science, and " Re-founded" them;

http://www.livescience.com/27790-catholi...story.html

This is the same article you previously posted, just from a different source. Do you know what tumultuous means? Did you bother reading the article?

The article is pretty clear in its description of how the church has been and continues to be at odds with science. The church now is forced to accept certain scientific discoveries because of overwhelming evidence, but the church has consistently rejected the science as it unfolded. I made this point pages ago and you post an article that validates my point.

I agree the church rejected it, and I wrote its one reason why science left; they could not leave if they were never there! There would not have been a scientific revolution without it.

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And the church was its mother. A fact many Atheist seem to be unaware of. Or would soon forget. You would be surprised to see how many scientist were believers in God that actually founded some serious science.

That humans were doing science long before the Church came around is a fact that many Christians and Muslims seem unaware of. Or would soon Forget. You would be surprised how many scientists were believers in Osiris, Zeus, or no gods at all who founded some serious science.

I am not a religious man or a Christian, but I am often amused at how some Atheist seem to use science as a type of weapon against religion, not knowing that science was once a bedfellow with religion.

I don't believe you know what the words 'religious' or 'Christian' mean.

I have never said the church predated science; never!

[Tonus]

And the church was its mother. A fact many Atheist seem to be unaware of. Or would soon forget. You would be surprised to see how many scientist were believers in God that actually founded some serious science.

I think it's more interesting to consider that a methodology born of the church and practiced by men of god (who --at least some of the time-- were under pressure to make sure their findings corroborated church teachings) wound up never finding god and leading humanity towards natural alternatives. It seems the church unwittingly birthed the movement that would eventually destroy it.

There's got to be a cool sci-fi flick somewhere in there.

[mickiel]

And the church was its mother. A fact many Atheist seem to be unaware of. Or would soon forget. You would be surprised to see how many scientist were believers in God that actually founded some serious science.

I think it's more interesting to consider that a methodology born of the church and practiced by men of god (who --at least some of the time-- were under pressure to make sure their findings corroborated church teachings) wound up never finding god and leading humanity towards natural alternatives. It seems the church unwittingly birthed the movement that would eventually destroy it.

There's got to be a cool sci-fi flick somewhere in there.

THATS what I been screaming, it DID BIRTH IT!