Let's Just Say...

[Creed of Heresy]

*GAAASP!*

OK now I REALLY can't wait! 8D

[Mystical]

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Its a depressing thought.

I'd accept he existed but he doesn't seem worthy of worship. After all, 30% of all the angels in heaven can't be wrong.....

That's an excellent point. Supposedly, they absolutely know he's real. Supposedly, they're in heavenly bliss. Supposedly, they are well aware of the consequences of rebellion, and that their opponent is omnipotent and they can't possibly win. Yet they find Yahweh so intolerable they rebel anyway.

But when heaven is full of human souls, everything will run smoothly.....

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A couple things to consider:
- God created, you nor I didn't, He created the rules, He graciously allows us to enjoy existence and His creation

If you made a robot capable of suffering, would that entitle you to torture it and still be considered good?

- Who are we to judge Him? As smart as we think we are for any way can possible compare His vast understand vs. ours is absurd.

We have at least as many qualifications to judge the biblical description of God to be evil as you have to judge it as good.

- Why do you blame God when He created man with a free will to chose his own fate and the results of his own decision.

We don't blame God. God is most likely a completely fictional character. We just point out the inconsistencies in your story about him.

And don't say well if God knew ahead of time yadda yadda yadda.

Because that would completely destroy your argument, so we better not say it!

No one can possibly rationalize everything nor understand fully God's Will.

Yet you lot keep telling us you know what God wants and thinks. It's not God we don't believe. God isn't making any claims. It's YOU we don't believe. You are not God, and if there is a God, you don't speak for it.

- If God gave you a chance to be forgiven that doesn't cost you anything other than to accept it, wouldn't it be silly to refuse such a gift.

If a mugger held a gun to my head and offered not to shoot me if I begged his forgiveness, it would be pragmatic to accept his offer, yes. If you tell me on the internet that someone is going to shoot me in the head if I don't beg some guy named Sam's forgiveness, it would be the height of gullibillity to act on that. Do you understand which of those two scenarios your 'offer' most resembles?

The only part of the universe to be in apart from God is the very place you blame God that He will send you to.

So, you believe God is not omnipresent.

However, you are choosing it by your pride and stubbornness.

We are choosing not to believe in claims that lack evidence and have only fallacies for support. 'Believe me or else' is one of the more ugly fallacies.

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[Revelation777]

Unfortunately, for you at least, the plan of salvation is through His Son and none other.

Rev, this is just another astounding example of the ability of many Christians to blindly accept the unreasonable. The idea of vicarious atonement is antithetical to any reasonable concept of justice. If we primates can figure this out it would seem that a being capable of creating the cosmos could also. This is another example of why your story is myth and a reason why the God of the Bible most certainly does not exist.

You are wrong.

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Just requesting civility and respect.

At the same time as telling everyone that they deserve to be tortured and burned forever if they don't start thinking the same way as you. Civility and respect, my arse.

When did I say that? Am I your judge?

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Let's Just Say that there is a God and He is the one described in the Bible. As much as you disagree or believe in the contrary, humor me and let's say that this is the case. If that be so and there is a hope for eternal life by placing your faith in Christ, would you accept that and receive Him? Or, would you defiantly reject this offer?

So Rev if you were presented with undeniable proof of the non-existence of god would you stop being a theist?

Or better still there was proof that a god exists and its Odin would you enter battle and hope for Valhalla?

These sort of questions are a waste of time.

Its along the line of asking "If my dick was ten foot long would it be a big dick?"

Well yes, but it isn't, is the answer.

I would not follow Odin.

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Its a depressing thought.

I'd accept he existed but he doesn't seem worthy of worship. After all, 30% of all the angels in heaven can't be wrong.....

That's an excellent point. Supposedly, they absolutely know he's real. Supposedly, they're in heavenly bliss. Supposedly, they are well aware of the consequences of rebellion, and that their opponent is omnipotent and they can't possibly win. Yet they find Yahweh so intolerable they rebel anyway.

But when heaven is full of human souls, everything will run smoothly.....

---

A couple things to consider:
- God created, you nor I didn't, He created the rules, He graciously allows us to enjoy existence and His creation

If you made a robot capable of suffering, would that entitle you to torture it and still be considered good?

- Who are we to judge Him? As smart as we think we are for any way can possible compare His vast understand vs. ours is absurd.

We have at least as many qualifications to judge the biblical description of God to be evil as you have to judge it as good.

- Why do you blame God when He created man with a free will to chose his own fate and the results of his own decision.

We don't blame God. God is most likely a completely fictional character. We just point out the inconsistencies in your story about him.

And don't say well if God knew ahead of time yadda yadda yadda.

Because that would completely destroy your argument, so we better not say it!

No one can possibly rationalize everything nor understand fully God's Will.

Yet you lot keep telling us you know what God wants and thinks. It's not God we don't believe. God isn't making any claims. It's YOU we don't believe. You are not God, and if there is a God, you don't speak for it.

- If God gave you a chance to be forgiven that doesn't cost you anything other than to accept it, wouldn't it be silly to refuse such a gift.

If a mugger held a gun to my head and offered not to shoot me if I begged his forgiveness, it would be pragmatic to accept his offer, yes. If you tell me on the internet that someone is going to shoot me in the head if I don't beg some guy named Sam's forgiveness, it would be the height of gullibillity to act on that. Do you understand which of those two scenarios your 'offer' most resembles?

The only part of the universe to be in apart from God is the very place you blame God that He will send you to.

So, you believe God is not omnipresent.

However, you are choosing it by your pride and stubbornness.

We are choosing not to believe in claims that lack evidence and have only fallacies for support. 'Believe me or else' is one of the more ugly fallacies.

How do I respond to all these without making this post a mile long?

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Rev, this is just another astounding example of the ability of many Christians to blindly accept the unreasonable. The idea of vicarious atonement is antithetical to any reasonable concept of justice. If we primates can figure this out it would seem that a being capable of creating the cosmos could also. This is another example of why your story is myth and a reason why the God of the Bible most certainly does not exist.

You are wrong.

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At the same time as telling everyone that they deserve to be tortured and burned forever if they don't start thinking the same way as you. Civility and respect, my arse.

When did I say that? Am I your judge?

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So Rev if you were presented with undeniable proof of the non-existence of god would you stop being a theist?

Or better still there was proof that a god exists and its Odin would you enter battle and hope for Valhalla?

These sort of questions are a waste of time.

Its along the line of asking "If my dick was ten foot long would it be a big dick?"

Well yes, but it isn't, is the answer.

I would not follow Odin.

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That's an excellent point. Supposedly, they absolutely know he's real. Supposedly, they're in heavenly bliss. Supposedly, they are well aware of the consequences of rebellion, and that their opponent is omnipotent and they can't possibly win. Yet they find Yahweh so intolerable they rebel anyway.

But when heaven is full of human souls, everything will run smoothly.....

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If you made a robot capable of suffering, would that entitle you to torture it and still be considered good?



We have at least as many qualifications to judge the biblical description of God to be evil as you have to judge it as good.


We don't blame God. God is most likely a completely fictional character. We just point out the inconsistencies in your story about him.


Because that would completely destroy your argument, so we better not say it!


Yet you lot keep telling us you know what God wants and thinks. It's not God we don't believe. God isn't making any claims. It's YOU we don't believe. You are not God, and if there is a God, you don't speak for it.


If a mugger held a gun to my head and offered not to shoot me if I begged his forgiveness, it would be pragmatic to accept his offer, yes. If you tell me on the internet that someone is going to shoot me in the head if I don't beg some guy named Sam's forgiveness, it would be the height of gullibillity to act on that. Do you understand which of those two scenarios your 'offer' most resembles?


So, you believe God is not omnipresent.


We are choosing not to believe in claims that lack evidence and have only fallacies for support. 'Believe me or else' is one of the more ugly fallacies.

How do I respond to all these without making this post a mile long?

You'll got God pegged wrong. He is loving and merciful. Patient and longsuffering. Man is evil.

[Esquilax]

You are wrong.

That's not an argument. Why is this appealing to you?

[Bob Kelso]

You are wrong.

That's not an argument. Why is this appealing to you?

That's the theist go-to right there mate.

[Ravenshire]

I would not follow Odin.

When you truly understand why you would not follow Odin, you will understand why we do not follow your gawd.

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You'll got God pegged wrong. He is loving and merciful.

Your gawd is about ad loving and merciful as a fucking rattlesnake with a back-ache.

Fuck you and your monster gawd.

[bennyboy]

You'll got God pegged wrong. He is loving and merciful. Patient and longsuffering. Man is evil.

Loving and merciful mass-extinction flood.
Loving and merciful punishment of death for idolatry.
Loving and merciful suffering of poor li'l African babies.
Loving and merciful AIDS.
Loving and merciful cancer.
Loving and merciful genetic birth defects.
Loving and merciful black plague.

Yep. Nice to know a loving and merciful God is looking out for everyone.

[Wyrd of Gawd]

Let's Just Say that there is a God and He is the one described in the Bible. As much as you disagree or believe in the contrary, humor me and let's say that this is the case. If that be so and there is a hope for eternal life by placing your faith in Christ, would you accept that and receive Him? Or, would you defiantly reject this offer?

There's a scene in Alien 3 where Ripley jumps to her death in a pool of fire rather than live with the Alien. I can see some people willingly jump into the lake of fire rather than exist with the Biblical God character and his assorted weird creatures.

[Mothonis]

I pray for Scarlet Letter too.

Awe, that is so sweet! If you're taking requests, ask your god to please send me a large Dominant man with black hair and brown eyes. Thanks in advance

I imagined it being a Tall black guy with a 9 inch wang and the first thing he says when he comes to your door is "Someone is getting tore open."

[Losty]

Awe, that is so sweet! If you're taking requests, ask your god to please send me a large Dominant man with black hair and brown eyes. Thanks in advance

I imagined it being a Tall black guy with a 9 inch wang and the first thing he says when he comes to your door is "Someone is getting tore open."

What the fuck dude lol. How about a normal size penis and no tearing anything.