What is Self ?

[Muslim Atheism]

I don't know. . .but I guess maybe it looks like this . .

Desire
(animal minds?)
↓
Mind
(conscious and subconscious)
↓
vibration - - - - - - - - - - - - + - - - - - - - - - - - - vibration
↓
Heart
↓
Soul

maybe there are other theories etc. . . .

[LostLocke]

I think it looks more like this:

Mind

.

[KUSA]

Why do people always ask this?

[Muslim Atheism]

Because people have God inside them (cause) . . . and they must eliminate ALL GOD, internal and external (effect).

[Nine]

Because people have God inside them (cause) . . . and they must eliminate ALL GOD, internal and external (effect).

I have no idea what the hell your on about..

I'm not entirely convinced what we call 'self' is anything more than an illusion. I sometimes wonder if we are just helpless observers shouting at the TV to no effect, only to find we can't even control the shouting.

[LostLocke]

I don'k know but doing this....



...to "What is self?" doesn't have the same impact.

[bennyboy]

Self is the part of the mind that thinks it matters.

[ManMachine]

I don't know. . .but I guess maybe it looks like this . .

Desire
(animal minds?)
↓
Mind
(conscious and subconscious)
↓
vibration - - - - - - - - - - - - + - - - - - - - - - - - - vibration
↓
Heart
↓
Soul

maybe there are other theories etc. . . .

It is unlikely that 'self' arrived fully formed in the human mind. It is also possible that what we perceive as a single experience of 'self' is a multi-layered construct. I personally find Damasio's Theory of consciousness rather compelling and it gives us a rudimentary map of how 'self' might be constructed.

Essentially (and I'm not going to do this the justice it deserves in this post, so this is a bit of a cut n' paste job) Damasio proposes three layers to 'self' each one using its lower form to build upon.

Protoself - the most basic representation of 'self', as Damasio puts it, '... a coherent collection of neural patterns, which map moment-by-moment the state of the physical structure of the organism"

Core Consciousness - When the organism becomes aware of the feeling that its bodily state (Protoself) is being affected by its experiences, or response to emotion, Core Consciousness is born.

and finally

Extended Consciousness - When consciousness moves beyond the here and now, Damasio’s third and final layer emerges as Extended Consciousness.

You can read about it here...

Damasio's Theory of Consciousness - Wiki

I'm not suggesting this is the final and only answer but it give us an insight, or at least a very basic road map, into how self (or consciousness) evolved and is structured.

Sadly the word 'vibration' has become ubiquitous in so called 'new-age' philosophy where there is a gap in real world explanations for metaphysical concepts. It's meaningless, people need to stop using it.

MM

[LastPoet]

This might help.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=LMrzdk_YnYY

[Muslim Atheism]

Thank you. .

The vibration because I'm based on the understanding that everything is about magnetic fields. . and the "desire" (pure motivation) and "mind" (pure understanding) can produce the right code to connect to the heart. Therefore, there might some form of vibration, wave or energy etc. For example. . . unstable energy that burns his cloth after meditation.

Buddha Boy