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RE: Evolution Facts
July 22, 2014 at 10:06 pm
(July 22, 2014 at 10:01 pm)alexwenzel Wrote: (July 16, 2014 at 2:00 am)Esquilax Wrote: Right, so if you know all this then you should have no problem going back to page five, reading my posts there where I respond to you and post sources that show that all of your claims are demonstrably wrong to such a degree that you've mislabelled basic concepts and said things don't exist when we have evidence that they do, and admit that you were wrong.
Or was the reason you stopped being an atheist that you decided honesty wasn't for you? 
I refuse. I could be putting other posts and links and then you will put another one and will go on forever. Proof of a intelligent designer is out there, just have to look for and use your common sense. Its called evolution theory for a reason. Its only a theory and what they claim to be proof are full of holes and lies.
Then u bow out of the debate? Typical. All u have is 'look around you!'. Scientists do do that. With cool machines and tools and math and shit. Your beliefs are based on ignorance and heresay. I know which one I will believe to be true..
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RE: Evolution Facts
July 22, 2014 at 10:13 pm
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LOL someone who adheres to a concept full of holes and lies claiming evolution is fake. My bullshit detector just blew. Do us a favour and shove your personal theories down your throat. Come back when you possess tangible evidence
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RE: Evolution Facts
July 22, 2014 at 10:15 pm
@ alexwenzel
If you read about evolution like you read the article you cited for the odds of a cell, then you haven't actually read anything.
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RE: Evolution Facts
July 22, 2014 at 10:27 pm
(July 22, 2014 at 10:06 pm)Beccs Wrote: (July 22, 2014 at 10:01 pm)alexwenzel Wrote: I refuse. I could be putting other posts and links and then you will put another one and will go on forever. Proof of a intelligent designer is out there, just have to look for and use your common sense. Its called evolution theory for a reason. Its only a theory and what they claim to be proof are full of holes and lies.
The "it's just a theory" argument from ignorance.
Once again a creationist either doesn't know what theory means in a scientific setting, or just refuses to acknowledge the difference between a scientific theory and use of the word in common usage. Or, just as likely as I've encountered with many creationists, just too dishonest to accept it.
And refuses to put forth the requested evidence and just responds with more claims.
*Yawn*.
Can we move on now?
I have moved on... you are the one stuck on your little miracle evolution..., searching pages and pages on google to to feed yourself with whatever you want to believe... that is your "bible". I am not going to place amounts of proof here, it doesn't matter... all the fanatic atheists will get on google and find someone or some article that tries to prove the opposite. Then I could do the same. The real proof I can't show it to you, you have to look for.
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RE: Evolution Facts
July 22, 2014 at 10:29 pm
(July 22, 2014 at 10:27 pm)alexwenzel Wrote: (July 22, 2014 at 10:06 pm)Beccs Wrote: The "it's just a theory" argument from ignorance.
Once again a creationist either doesn't know what theory means in a scientific setting, or just refuses to acknowledge the difference between a scientific theory and use of the word in common usage. Or, just as likely as I've encountered with many creationists, just too dishonest to accept it.
And refuses to put forth the requested evidence and just responds with more claims.
*Yawn*.
Can we move on now?
I have moved on... you are the one stuck on your little miracle evolution..., searching pages and pages on google to to feed yourself with whatever you want to believe... that is your "bible". I am not going to place amounts of proof here, it doesn't matter... all the fanatic atheists will get on google and find someone or some article that tries to prove the opposite. Then I could do the same. The real proof I can't show it to you, you have to look for.
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I'm betting you have no evidence b sides the bible and a silly version of Pascal's wager. If you looked for proof carefully, you wouldn't be a Christian
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RE: Evolution Facts
July 22, 2014 at 10:34 pm
(July 22, 2014 at 10:27 pm)alexwenzel Wrote: (July 22, 2014 at 10:06 pm)Beccs Wrote: The "it's just a theory" argument from ignorance.
Once again a creationist either doesn't know what theory means in a scientific setting, or just refuses to acknowledge the difference between a scientific theory and use of the word in common usage. Or, just as likely as I've encountered with many creationists, just too dishonest to accept it.
And refuses to put forth the requested evidence and just responds with more claims.
*Yawn*.
Can we move on now?
I have moved on... you are the one stuck on your little miracle evolution..., searching pages and pages on google to to feed yourself with whatever you want to believe... that is your "bible". I am not going to place amounts of proof here, it doesn't matter... all the fanatic atheists will get on google and find someone or some article that tries to prove the opposite. Then I could do the same. The real proof I can't show it to you, you have to look for.
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Son, I've done this thing called "study" evolution and biology. You obviously have not, judging by your pig-ignorant commentary. In fact I could not do my job without it.
Once again the whole, "I could show you proof but you wouldn't believe it" argument. In other words, you have no testable, verifiable evidence so you just make claims.
Typical of the creationist and their lies.
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RE: Evolution Facts
July 22, 2014 at 10:39 pm
Quote:"You shall not pass" - Gandalf, Lord of the Rings. See? I can quote a book of fantasy, too.
And much better than the bible I must say, all hail our lord Gandalf the White, only those who follow him will see the light.
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RE: Evolution Facts
July 22, 2014 at 10:40 pm
To be fair to the poster above, believing "means" you don't need proof.
I'm still not sure how denying evolution has anything to do with the existence of a skydaddy. There would still be zero proof of his actual existence.
The only irrefutable place where skydaddy does in fact live is in our minds.
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RE: Evolution Facts
July 22, 2014 at 10:44 pm
(July 22, 2014 at 10:40 pm)ignoramus Wrote: To be fair to the poster above, believing "means" you don't need proof.
I'm still not sure how denying evolution has anything to do with the existence of a skydaddy. There would still be zero proof of his actual existence.
The only irrefutable place where skydaddy does in fact live is in our minds.
They seem to think that if evolution weren't actually a fact, that would be proof of his deity. Ignoring the fact that even if it proved a god, it might not be their own.
It's like Pascal's Wager but with more ignorance.
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RE: Evolution Facts
July 22, 2014 at 10:58 pm
(July 22, 2014 at 10:29 pm)Blackout Wrote: (July 22, 2014 at 10:27 pm)alexwenzel Wrote: I have moved on... you are the one stuck on your little miracle evolution..., searching pages and pages on google to to feed yourself with whatever you want to believe... that is your "bible". I am not going to place amounts of proof here, it doesn't matter... all the fanatic atheists will get on google and find someone or some article that tries to prove the opposite. Then I could do the same. The real proof I can't show it to you, you have to look for.
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I'm betting you have no evidence b sides the bible and a silly version of Pascal's wager. If you looked for proof carefully, you wouldn't be a Christian
I have overwhelming amounts of proof for myself, and don't have to prove it to you. Im happy with what I know. Its a waste of time getting in an debate with you, it won't make a difference, because you have decided what YOU want to believe and you will make whatever effort necessary to keep believing what you want. Anything you read that pleases your sense is satisfactory to you. First go detox your brain to start using common sense... then you will find reality.
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