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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
September 20, 2014 at 11:10 am
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I bet it's pretty easy to arrange for a body that never existed to disappear. I can see it now, the magician onstage triumphantly declaring to have made the statue of liberty disappear:
Audience: But it was never here.....
Magician: Abracadabra!
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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
September 20, 2014 at 11:12 am
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(September 20, 2014 at 11:10 am)Rhythm Wrote: I bet it's pretty easy to arrange for a body that never existed to disappear.
That sounds like I line out of a gangster movie.
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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
September 20, 2014 at 11:12 am
On the audience, yeah..lol.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
September 20, 2014 at 11:13 am
(September 20, 2014 at 11:06 am)C4RM5 Wrote: My evidence is that Jesus' body cannot of been stolen, therefore why did his body dissappear.
So many things wrong with this, don't know where to start...
For arguments sake, I'll stipulate that his body was in the cave.
But your contention that he rose from the dead is more likely than, oh I don't know... that his body could have been stolen?
Seriously?
A 'skeptic' such as yourself, thinks resurrection is more likely than a stolen body.
I could come up with dozens of more likely possibilities for a missing body than a magic resurrection. But you believe the most unlikely is the one that happened.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
September 20, 2014 at 11:14 am
It also occurs to me with 40,000 Christian denominations, there are only two (2) LOGICAL outcomes.
39,999 are WRONG
- or -
40,000 are WRONG.
Sucks to be a Christian, don't it ???
(Even more sad if the One True Faith is defunct today, like the Gibsonites, OMFG !!!!)
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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
September 20, 2014 at 11:14 am
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So what are your more likely reasons.
(September 20, 2014 at 11:14 am)vorlon13 Wrote: It also occurs to me with 40,000 Christian denominations, there are only two (2) LOGICAL outcomes.
39,999 are WRONG
- or -
40,000 are WRONG.
Sucks to be a Christian, don't it ???
(Even more sad if the One True Faith is defunct today, like the Gibsonites, OMFG !!!!) Yet they all believe that Jesus' died for our sins.
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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
September 20, 2014 at 11:18 am
(September 20, 2014 at 11:14 am)C4RM5 Wrote: So what are your more likely reasons.
I just mentioned one, it was stolen. Not even unusual for the time for this to happen.
How about, that it was never there to begin with?
How about one or more of his followers thought he deserved a better burial, and moved the body?
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
September 20, 2014 at 11:19 am
(September 20, 2014 at 11:18 am)Simon Moon Wrote: (September 20, 2014 at 11:14 am)C4RM5 Wrote: So what are your more likely reasons.
I just mentioned one, it was stolen. Not even unusual for the time for this to happen.
How about, that it was never there to begin with?
How about one or more of his followers thought he deserved a better burial, and moved the body? There where Roman soliders posted to guard the tomb.
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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
September 20, 2014 at 11:21 am
(September 20, 2014 at 11:14 am)C4RM5 Wrote: Yet they all believe that Jesus' died for our sins.
Not even true.
Several of the earliest Christian sects believed that Jesus never came to earth in bodily form, and that he only existed in a spiritual plain.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
September 20, 2014 at 11:21 am
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(September 20, 2014 at 11:06 am)C4RM5 Wrote: My evidence is that Jesus' body cannot of been stolen, therefore why did his body dissappear.
This is not evidence, this is a claim written in a book, what evidence do you have to support the claim that Jesus body did actually disappear?
Also, sorry to be a grammar nazi (god knows mine is bad enough) but it's could not have been stolen, "cannot of been stolen" just sounds wrong.
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