Is promoting virginity harmful to young girls/women?

[Losty]

Drich do you have an opinion about the article or the OP?

[The Valkyrie]

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Losty,

Personally I don't like the idea of children pledging virginity. I think the decision must be made by the adult, and it's a decision that adults make day by day rather than as something pledged.

But I do support the ideal of sex within marriage, or at least within a relationship that is willing and able to commit to raise any child resulting from sex. For me that it is because I believe life starts at conception, and so I cannot condone abortion. Sex, being intrinsically linked to pregnancy is therefore best kept within a relationship that is able and prepared to bring up that child. There is also an intimacy of sex that is inevitably devalued by having multiple partners; as someone said earlier it simply becomes 'sport'. I prefer values that hold it as something more special than sport or entertainment. Needless to say there is also an advantage that STDs would have much lower impact if the number of sexual partners were significantly reduced (we now know, for example, that the risk of early preterm birth, a major cause of disability, increases significantly with the number of sexual partners a woman has had, because it is linked to hidden low-grade genital infection).

But the title of your thread made me a wince a little because it does seem to reflect a greater pressure on girls than boys, and I think that reflects the reality. No doubt that is because of where the consequences lie, and girls were wrongly ostracised in the past whereas boys could disappear back into the background. That was very wrong.

Anyway, that's just a view from another place. I appreciate that I'm taking a counter-cultural (at least on this forum) view here, so will go and don my tin hat.

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If you want to teach your daughter(or son) that she should wait because stds and pregnancy that is fine. That is not the issue that I take. The issue is that people cannot turn thoughts and feelings off just because of a marriage certificate. So if you teach them that sex(sexuality/sexual thoughts) outside of marriage are sinful/wrong/bad/dirty that is wrong. It's a disgusting thing to tell a child that something natural (something they will inevitably feel and/or think about) is something they should be ashamed of.

Ps. I see nothing wrong with sex as a sport. I have my own "demons" (thank you PTSD) mixing sex and love leaves me feeling icky and violated.

Agreed. I've had some good "connections" with casual acquaintances.

[DramaQueen]

In the "arab" world you need to have an intact hymen (there has to be blood) to get married. Or else

So our females stay virgins.

Or else what? Their will be blood?

I don't know, Muslims don't talk about anything remotely sexual (except teens and creeps, and I know more about sex than these two imagine that)

And by the way, pregnant is profane (source: mum)

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How can someone do it with someone they're not in love with?

[vorlon13]

I didn't think my views on the topic were very strong or of interest to anyone else, but it occurs to me that this is essentially an Adam Smith capitalism thread.

Really, bear with me here.

Anyhow, the topic is of a possible constraint on 'supply'. Now we all know 'demand' is relatively inflexible (insatiable springs to mind too) and if um, conventional outlets are harder to encounter, then there will be a percentage willing to, as they say, take a walk on the wild side.


So, it looks like I need to step up to the plate. (while advocating a return of maidenly virtue)

[Losty]

I didn't think my views on the topic were very strong or of interest to anyone else, but it occurs to me that this is essentially an Adam Smith capitalism thread.

Really, bear with me here.

Anyhow, the topic is of a possible constraint on 'supply'. Now we all know 'demand' is relatively inflexible (insatiable springs to mind too) and if um, conventional outlets are harder to encounter, then there will be a percentage willing to, as they say, take a walk on the wild side.


So, it looks like I need to step up to the plate. (while advocating a return of maidenly virtue)

translation please.

[The Valkyrie]

I didn't think my views on the topic were very strong or of interest to anyone else, but it occurs to me that this is essentially an Adam Smith capitalism thread.

Really, bear with me here.

Anyhow, the topic is of a possible constraint on 'supply'. Now we all know 'demand' is relatively inflexible (insatiable springs to mind too) and if um, conventional outlets are harder to encounter, then there will be a percentage willing to, as they say, take a walk on the wild side.


So, it looks like I need to step up to the plate. (while advocating a return of maidenly virtue)

translation please.

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[vorlon13]

If'n the women folk gonna play hard to get, us gay men have a better shot on Saturday night.

Keep those legs crossed, ladies !!!!

[Losty]

If'n the women folk gonna play hard to get, us gay men have a better shot on Saturday night.

Keep those legs crossed, ladies !!!!

Ohh ok haha I get it now. Lol

Umm....I think we are technically searching for different men, but I guess there's be more bi men available to you if women didn't have sex.

[Zidneya]

I think that the right question would be. Is banning premarital sex a harmful to women? Because you do realize that there are couples that waited until wedding night and have a healthy relationship right? I mean no one can assume how things are gonna develop in the bedroom.

[Losty]

I think that the right question would be. Is banning premarital sex a harmful to women? Because you do realize that there are couples that waited until wedding night and have a healthy relationship right? I mean no one can assume how things are gonna develop in the bedroom.

I don't know, bae, I think my OP makes it pretty clear what I meant. I'm not saying virginity is bad or that it should be discouraged. I'm just saying that it shouldn't be promoted in ways that make the person feel ashamed of their sexuality. It shouldn't be brainwashed into little girls who don't even know what sex is. You children shouldn't be taught that sex is dirty or sinful or bad.
Of course choosing not to have sex until marriage on your own volition is acceptable.