General questions about the Christian idea of God and love

[fr0d0]

You have no example to submit then Kitanetos?

[Silver]

You have no example to submit then Kitanetos?

Clarify what you mean by that statement.

[fr0d0]

Please give an example of religious failing that isn't actually human failing.

[Silver]

Please give an example of religious failing that isn't actually human failing.

I did not state it was not human failing, just that the religious connotation of failing could not be dismissed as you so readily believe.

[Esquilax]

Please give an example of religious failing that isn't actually human failing.

Faith healing, and the deaths resultant from it?

[Hellfire1014]

Must be why you're a member of every religion ever, huh? Oh, plus an infinite variety of imaginary religions. After all, you wouldn't want to take the chance on any of their hells, either.

You say every religion ever, then you also say a variety of imaginary religions? By imaginary religions are you talking about things like the flying noodle monster made up to try and make fun of god? I'm a member of the religion my grandparents are a member of. A member of the religion my parents are. Although they did not go to church a lot when I was younger I was still brought up with those values, and that was the one I was raised around. I believe in my heart (feel it in my soul) that this is the right religion. Always have. I do not follow other religions, because I know (feel it) that they are not right. Same with all the other denominations of the christian religion. Like Catholicism (those who pick and choose what suits them), or Pentecostal, or Mormanism (those who want to bind women). I do this for myself, and not to gain anything. Only to gain access into the kingdom of heaven. If I considered myself anything it would be baptist, but I admitted I only turned back to god a month ago after rebelling.

Oh, unless this statement is just a faux-rational cover for special pleading, that is.
If it were do you not think I know that god would not know? If I believe him to know everything, and to be all powerful do you not think I believe him to know what is in my heart? If it were a faux anyways I would not have stopped smoking weed, or stopped masturbating. I'm not doing this to be guiltless. We are all guilty. Only through the grace of Jesus dying on the cross are we not guilty. As human nature is due to the fact that adam and eve ate from the tree of knowledge we are ALL guilty. Again I state only through Jesus Christ are we saved. Some people do, do it as a faux. They don't want to to turn away from their sin, but still want salvation. If they have the conviction put on them from god to turn to god, and the continue to sin their is no sacrifice.


Seems like a problem with you, not with porn. I met my fiancee on an erotica site, so evidently the active variable in you looking at porn and not getting into a relationship isn't the porn.

You're right it was a problem with me. People make things work one way or the other. That does not mean they will last.


Depends very much on the particulars of your relationship, as it's entirely possible to foster a healthy marital sexuality with porn as a component. Again, this is a personal issue without anything to do with porn.
Yet if you foster that relationship with that in it, you are relying on a crutch. You're building your relationship on that. What after 10 years with that you took it away? Where would it be then? Like I said above. People make things work. How would it work without it if that is the basis you built your relationship on?


It's actually very easy: just recognize the (obvious) fact that not all energy needs to come from god. Not that I do believe in chakras, just thought I'd point that out.

You're right not all energy comes from god. However there's not much point in discussing chakras as this is not the topic at hand.


Fun fact: anal sex is not solely the domain of gay people, nor do all gay people have anal sex, nor is sex the only thing about being gay. You're really terrible at accurately attributing causes, dude.
I wasn't saying sex was the only thing about being gay. Everyone wants love, and to be loved. They are sexually immoral though.

[Mudhammam]

Please give an example of religious failing that isn't actually human failing.

As long as you're admitting both Old and New Testaments to contain numerous texts falsely attributed to divine command or righteous living, or that offer purely metaphorical language though not traditionally recognized as such, then I concede the point. Otherwise you're forced to bite the bullet and accept that rational, humanistic standards of morality are not compatible with many of its claims and instructions.

[fr0d0]

Faith healing, and the deaths resultant from it?

Serious human failing there

[Silver]

Serious human failing there

The only serious human failing society cannot seem to overcome is that of the creation of religion by human minds.

[fr0d0]

Please take that to the cry baby thread