Leaning towards Islam being true these days.

[Mystic]

I think that we need another thread where you can't make up your mind about what you believe in.

Having reasons to believe but not concluding hastily is not necessarily a bad thing.

We can always make wrong judgments in our reasoning.

For example Islam can be a complete guidance, but is that necessarily a good thing? Does God want us to follow everything from him or come up with our own morals? That is debatable. I just think he rather have us follow his guidance and then come to understanding, as opposed, to be left without guidance.

Still, perhaps there are other religions that provide guidance in all spheres of life that can't be proven wrong. Or perhaps some hindu sect has a book superior to the Quran. I don't know.

I am not going to go about this fast. Right now I am not Muslim. I am not going to just go into the religion just because I found some reasons to believe. I have to think about them for a long time.

Still there is other reasons I haven't mentioned yet. It has to do with this miracle code in the Quran. It has nothing to do with the number 19 or numerology. But a whole different thing all together. It can be coincidence but seems far fetch to me. I will talk about that later.

[DramaQueen]

You can find such "miracles" in many other religions some of which are indigenous tribal ones

[Mystic]

You can find such "miracles" in many other religions some of which are indigenous tribal ones

I will present it and then you can present the miracles in the other religions and we can compare.

[genkaus]

I haven't thought too much about my want of religion to be true. I can tell you my life has been better ever since I left Islam. But I think it might be because I had a false understanding of Islam. I'm not too sure. I don't really want to accept what seem to me to be barbaric laws like cutting fingers off a thief or lashing out on a fornicators/adulterers.

That does not sound like a false understanding of Islam at all.

[Simon Moon]

Having reasons to believe but not concluding hastily is not necessarily a bad thing.

Very true.

As long as those reasons are evidence based, and backed by valid and sound logic.

Which you do not have for Islam.

We can always make wrong judgments in our reasoning.

Again, true.

But your reasons seem to be 'feelings'. Which are a very poor reason to accept something as true. Especially when not supported by demonstrable evidence.

Basing beliefs on feelings is not a path to truth. There are 7 billion people on Earth. Over 5 billion of them believe different gods than Muslims. Most of them also base their beliefs on the same 'feelings' as you. Yet they come to different conclusions.

For example Islam can be a complete guidance, but is that necessarily a good thing? Does God want us to follow everything from him or come up with our own morals? That is debatable. I just think he rather have us follow his guidance and then come to understanding, as opposed, to be left without guidance.

Name one thing that Islam or the Quran has as guidance that COULD ONLY have come from a supernatural source.

Still, perhaps there are other religions that provide guidance in all spheres of life that can't be proven wrong. Or perhaps some hindu sect has a book superior to the Quran. I don't know.

It's not whether there is some reasonable guidance in various religious texts that counts, it whether they are true.

I am not going to go about this fast. Right now I am not Muslim. I am not going to just go into the religion just because I found some reasons to believe. I have to think about them for a long time.

Your history of posts here have never shown to have any reasonable level of critical thinking. Why start now?

Still there is other reasons I haven't mentioned yet. It has to do with this miracle code in the Quran. It has nothing to do with the number 19 or numerology. But a whole different thing all together. It can be coincidence but seems far fetch to me. I will talk about that later.

Oh bloody hell...

Google 'miracle code moby dick'.

Using the exact same methods used for the so called, 'Miracle code' in the Quran, similar predictions, etc have been found in Herman Melville's 'Moby Dick'.

Again...

No critical thinking skills.

[DramaQueen]

Since you lost faith in Islam, did you have a phase where you experimented with other religions?

I'm curious

[freedeepthink]

I think being a Muslim is just a good excuse to fuck goats.

Wow. You can talk like that here? I didn't know.

---

It is transparent to me and makes no difference.

So I should say that the only reason your Atheist is because you don't want to believe in God? Is that fair to say.

To be honest, I don't want to be an atheist. I don't think most of us here do. Most of us probably wish there was a Santa Claus up in the clouds waiting to deliver us presents for being good little boys and girls. Odd coincidence that Santa Claus's big day is the same day as Jesus's birthday? I digress.

Anyways, it is not easy dealing with death as the true end. That's pretty hard to cope with on a psychological level. It is man's self defense mechanism protecting us from the unknown (after death questions) that naturally lends man to irrational beyond-life thinking. That's all god is.

God:
noun \ˈgäd also ˈgȯd\

A self-defense mechanism constructed, in most cultures, to protect oneself from having to cope with the painful reality that we have no evidence to support an afterlife.

[Chas]

I haven't thought too much about my want of religion to be true. I can tell you my life has been better ever since I left Islam. But I think it might be because I had a false understanding of Islam. I'm not too sure. I don't really want to accept what seem to me to be barbaric laws like cutting fingers off a thief or lashing out on a fornicators/adulterers.

You seem to have a problem with critical thinking.

Determining the truth of something is not related to whether or not you want it to be true.

Your wants do not affect its truth.

[Mystic]

I haven't thought too much about my want of religion to be true. I can tell you my life has been better ever since I left Islam. But I think it might be because I had a false understanding of Islam. I'm not too sure. I don't really want to accept what seem to me to be barbaric laws like cutting fingers off a thief or lashing out on a fornicators/adulterers.

You seem to have a problem with critical thinking.

Determining the truth of something is not related to whether or not you want it to be true.

Your wants do not affect its truth.

Genkaus was telling me that I want Islam to be true and I was responding to that.

[Chas]

To be honest, I don't want to be an atheist. I don't think most of us here do.

I will bet you serious money that you are wrong on that.

Most of us probably wish there was a Santa Claus up in the clouds waiting to deliver us presents for being good little boys and girls. Odd coincidence that Santa Claus's big day is the same day as Jesus's birthday? I digress.

I'll double down the bet.