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October 8, 2014 at 3:58 pm
.. but life after death?... seems not, but bear with me:
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/10/...50582.html
Seems there evidence of a sort that shows there can be awareness after death. In one case, three minutes after the heart had stopped, and the brain shuts down within 20 seconds or so, apparently.
Interesting stuff (although a bit like the shoe on the cupboard experiment?)
And not a blow to science, as if proven, this will just become science - as science moves on (unlike religion !!)
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October 8, 2014 at 4:07 pm
Erm.. the article, as far as I can tell, is talking about NDE's, not "after death". I don't know of anyone that considers a stopped heart to be "death". I'd like to see the actual journal article (if there is one), because widely-read publications like huff-po liberally use quoted terms like "clinically dead" without bothering to define them, which is kind of a big point of the article. Also, the wording of the article is so greasy and click-baity. "scientists are now seriously considering the possibility that consciousness can continue after a person has been clinically diagnosed as dead" is so vague, it reminds me of creationist websites saying the same about scientists considering the possibility of evolution being false. It's interesting that in the 'related articles' section at the bottom, they have another suggested reading that says NDE's and OBE's are NOT evidence of an afterlife. Just another clickbait trashy article in my opinion.
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October 8, 2014 at 4:08 pm
They're equivocating "cardiac arrest" and "death". Death does not occur at cardiac arrest, it occurs with the cessation of all biological function - if the brain is still functioning, the subject isn't dead yet.
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October 8, 2014 at 4:17 pm
(This post was last modified: October 8, 2014 at 4:19 pm by Aoi Magi.)
The heart is a major organ alright, but it isn't THE most important organ when it comes to life and death, that title belongs to the brain. Also humans have shown uncanny perceptions when one or more of their senses like sight has been disabled. Our brain is quite capable of mapping our surroundings from the tiniest of information. Many martial artists train by blocking their senses in order to harness this ability. Even common people experience this as a form of "sixth sense", like when you feel your mom has entered the room, without even looking or hearing anything. There is nothing supernatural about it.
If they really want to write about shady after life experiments, then they should focus on topics like "Past Life Regression".
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October 8, 2014 at 4:17 pm
Feel free to surf the interweb ocean, but I first saw this on TV (UK breakfast news possibly?)
But that said, I agree with you guys, we know very little about the brain on death...
My reason for posting was to get some dialogue though.... so goon on ya!
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October 8, 2014 at 4:55 pm
I don't buy the study
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October 8, 2014 at 5:02 pm
(October 8, 2014 at 4:17 pm)Aoi Magi Wrote: The heart is a major organ alright, but it isn't THE most important organ when it comes to life and death, that title belongs to the brain. Also humans have shown uncanny perceptions when one or more of their senses like sight has been disabled. Our brain is quite capable of mapping our surroundings from the tiniest of information. Many martial artists train by blocking their senses in order to harness this ability. Even common people experience this as a form of "sixth sense", like when you feel your mom has entered the room, without even looking or hearing anything. There is nothing supernatural about it.
If they really want to write about shady after life experiments, then they should focus on topics like "Past Life Regression".
You can't tell them how to conduct their studies? can you?
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October 8, 2014 at 5:20 pm
(October 8, 2014 at 5:02 pm)lifesagift Wrote: You can't tell them how to conduct their studies? can you? Well that's true, but then again, this doesn't seem like much of a "study" as much as a clickbait.
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October 8, 2014 at 6:29 pm
(This post was last modified: October 8, 2014 at 6:29 pm by BrianSoddingBoru4.)
As a result of the incident that cost me my eye, I 'coded' for about two minutes. I had no recollection of anything that occurred during that time.
And previous posters are absolutely correct - heart stoppage doesn't constitute 'dead'. Dead is just that - dead. You don't come back from dead.
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October 9, 2014 at 5:05 pm
"Dead is just dead" really doesn't give any credit to any research... and is a bit limited...
And I do understand the "clickbait" problem... so:
http://www.southampton.ac.uk/mediacentre...Db3dRstBMs
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