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Taste really can be good or bad
October 16, 2014 at 11:50 am
I think I finally realized the definition of a pleb. It didn't occur to me for a while but I realized that the answer was staring me right in the face the whole time. Some songs don't have any emotional depth. Not only do the lyrics of the song convey an emotional message, but the art of making the sound itself can produce feeling too. I am incapable of describing what specific sounds create certain feelings (that is music theory which I don't know). I think we can all agree that some things are emotionally shallow and some things are emotionally rich. The problem isn't that music is subjective. The problem is that there is no way to write out a quantification of musical emotion. So the stupid who think their music is good don't know that their music is bad. The people who realize when music is bad and has shallow emotional expression or character are the ones who have true taste in music.
Sometimes these things are harder to find than others. Some music might not click with a person the first time. It may take many listens for someone to really get the appeal of the music. Some people may be hearing music that actually has a deep emotional expression that the listener themself cannot grasp.
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RE: Taste really can be good or bad
October 16, 2014 at 12:16 pm
(October 16, 2014 at 11:50 am)MusicLovingAtheist Wrote: I think we can all agree that some things are emotionally shallow and some things are emotionally rich. I don't agree.
Actually, I take that back, I do agree. But, what I find emotionally "shallow" or emotionally "rich" are completely relative to me.
Everyone's opinions are valid, and there is no right or wrong answer to this.
(October 16, 2014 at 11:50 am)MusicLovingAtheist Wrote: So the stupid who think their music is good don't know that their music is bad. If you enjoy the music, it is good to you.
If you don't enjoy the music, it is bad to you.
(October 16, 2014 at 11:50 am)MusicLovingAtheist Wrote: The people who realize when music is bad and has shallow emotional expression or character are the ones who have true taste in music. Taste in music, like taste in foods or taste in colors, is, again, completely relative to the the observer.
No "true" taste in music exists.
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RE: Taste really can be good or bad
October 16, 2014 at 12:19 pm
I've always found it stupid how people judge others based on their taste in music. 'You shouldn't like that noise in your ear, you're stupid if you like that noise. Listen to the noise i'm listening to in my ear'. Somebody famous said that, i can't remember who.
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RE: Taste really can be good or bad
October 16, 2014 at 12:21 pm
(October 16, 2014 at 12:19 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote: I've always found it stupid how people judge others based on their taste in music. 'You shouldn't like that noise in your ear, you're stupid if you like that noise. Listen to the noise i'm listening to in my ear'. Somebody famous said that, i can't remember who.
My noise is better than your noise! It's like saying someone is stupid for liking a certain movie. Doesn't make any sense.
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RE: Taste really can be good or bad
October 16, 2014 at 12:58 pm
There's a creature called Haifa Wahbe, I think the only reason men like her is because of her sex appeal
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RE: Taste really can be good or bad
October 16, 2014 at 2:00 pm
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(October 16, 2014 at 12:19 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote: I've always found it stupid how people judge others based on their taste in music. 'You shouldn't like that noise in your ear, you're stupid if you like that noise. Listen to the noise i'm listening to in my ear'. Somebody famous said that, i can't remember who.
This guy thinks music is noise. That pretty much says it all.
(October 16, 2014 at 12:16 pm)LostLocke Wrote: (October 16, 2014 at 11:50 am)MusicLovingAtheist Wrote: I think we can all agree that some things are emotionally shallow and some things are emotionally rich. I don't agree.
Actually, I take that back, I do agree. But, what I find emotionally "shallow" or emotionally "rich" are completely relative to me.
Everyone's opinions are valid, and there is no right or wrong answer to this.
(October 16, 2014 at 11:50 am)MusicLovingAtheist Wrote: So the stupid who think their music is good don't know that their music is bad. If you enjoy the music, it is good to you.
If you don't enjoy the music, it is bad to you.
(October 16, 2014 at 11:50 am)MusicLovingAtheist Wrote: The people who realize when music is bad and has shallow emotional expression or character are the ones who have true taste in music. Taste in music, like taste in foods or taste in colors, is, again, completely relative to the the observer.
No "true" taste in music exists.
We can agree that if someone likes McDonalds more than a real quality hamburger then they have shit. Damn, that was easy to refute...
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RE: Taste really can be good or bad
October 16, 2014 at 2:09 pm
Justin Bieber won't answer my texts. **weeping**
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RE: Taste really can be good or bad
October 16, 2014 at 2:12 pm
This..might come as a surprise to you MLA, but there aren't any standards of what makes 'good' music and 'bad' music. Different people have different tastes, it's by defintion subjective because it depends on the subject that experiences the music. Even if there were objective standards, I certainly wouldn't accept the claim that you know what they are.
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RE: Taste really can be good or bad
October 16, 2014 at 2:15 pm
(October 16, 2014 at 2:12 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: This..might come as a surprise to you MLA, but there aren't any standards of what makes 'good' music and 'bad' music. Different people have different tastes, it's by defintion subjective because it depends on the subject that experiences the music. Even if there were objective standards, I certainly wouldn't accept the claim that you know what they are.
So you think it's okay that people listen to shitty music.
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RE: Taste really can be good or bad
October 16, 2014 at 2:19 pm
Yes. Why wouldn't it be okay? I'm not the arbiter of "good music" and "bad music" and the judge that deems a song one or the other, and it's really arrogant to think that you are. People like different things. So what. I listen to music I enjoy and don't listen to music I don't enjoy. Simple.
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