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October 23, 2014 at 1:37 pm
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(October 23, 2014 at 1:19 pm)Drich Wrote: (October 23, 2014 at 12:22 pm)paulpablo Wrote: Ok this is an interesting post.
In this hypothetical situation how did I find out that witches were real back then and not just a myth?
Someone finds a old book a spells, summons a demon and the door to witchcraft/demon possession is back open and all Hell breaks loose again.. New problem, created by a period book that verifys the old problem.
(October 23, 2014 at 1:16 pm)dyresand Wrote: so if god told you to make a flame thrower and go door to door and burn your neighbors houses down in the middle of the night you would do it because god said so? if he said that to me personally i would give him the finger that's if he even exists.
If 'god' told me to do something not consistant with scripture then I could identify it as a false god no matter what he brought to the table.
Again the goal in biblical Christianity is to follow and Worship the God of the bible. Once 'a god' deviates from the bible it can quickly be identified as a false God.
Now if Acts 21:13 said thou shalt roast thy heathen neighbors when call upon to do so by the lord your God... then lets just say if i were you I would not goto the denver get together next summer.
but what if god like people changed into the 6 thousand years.
now he doesn't follow his own scripture anymore you would still have to listen.
and also not no denver summers ill go during the winter.
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RE: It time for another What if... Thread!
October 23, 2014 at 1:43 pm
(October 23, 2014 at 1:37 pm)dyresand Wrote: (October 23, 2014 at 1:19 pm)Drich Wrote: Someone finds a old book a spells, summons a demon and the door to witchcraft/demon possession is back open and all Hell breaks loose again.. New problem, created by a period book that verifys the old problem.
If 'god' told me to do something not consistant with scripture then I could identify it as a false god no matter what he brought to the table.
Again the goal in biblical Christianity is to follow and Worship the God of the bible. Once 'a god' deviates from the bible it can quickly be identified as a false God.
Now if Acts 21:13 said thou shalt roast thy heathen neighbors when call upon to do so by the lord your God... then lets just say if i were you I would not goto the denver get together next summer.
but what if god like people changed into the 6 thousand years.
now he doesn't follow his own scripture anymore you would still have to listen.
and also not no denver summers ill go during the winter.
then He has problems.. Being all knowing He should have seen the change comming and made a provision way back when...
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RE: It time for another What if... Thread!
October 23, 2014 at 1:47 pm
(October 23, 2014 at 1:43 pm)Drich Wrote: (October 23, 2014 at 1:37 pm)dyresand Wrote: but what if god like people changed into the 6 thousand years.
now he doesn't follow his own scripture anymore you would still have to listen.
and also not no denver summers ill go during the winter.
then He has problems.. Being all knowing He should have seen the change comming and made a provision way back when...
but yet... he didn't.. if he changed back then it would affect now and since no changes to the past happened. even if he had changed the past it would affect the present and since god always wants to be right he would not change the past.
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RE: It time for another What if... Thread!
October 23, 2014 at 1:55 pm
(October 22, 2014 at 10:50 pm)Drich Wrote: Last year we did one on witches and most of the old timers lost their minds, and wanted to burn me at the stake. I figured since we have so much fresh meat, we can let the new guys play, and see what they think. Rules are simple. If you want to play sick with in the senerio, don't wander off into history or self righteousness.
Ok so what if.... witches as per folk tales and scary movies existed? (Not the dbag witch/emo/hippies we do have) but real fly on a broom, steal your children cook and eat them, prey on people in general, no prision can hold them, can only be killed by water or fire, but real as the day is long???
Would it then be ok to have an hold witch hunts of old/Salem witch trials?
What if #2: what if just a few hundred years ago these type of witches really did exist and it wasn't superstition and rampant ignorance that over took people. What if the population was then just as aware of reality as we are now, only that the variable in the equation was reality itself and not our ancestors knoweledge of it? Meaning the supernatural was stronger than it is now?
Would that change your view of what they did and why they did what they did?
No. Throwing water on a person doesn't hurt them. So I'd say force everyone to stand in a line and spray them down with a water hose. Prevents the risk of accidentally burning an innocent though eccentric weirdo at the stake.
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RE: It time for another What if... Thread!
October 23, 2014 at 1:58 pm
(October 23, 2014 at 1:55 pm)Losty Wrote: (October 22, 2014 at 10:50 pm)Drich Wrote: Last year we did one on witches and most of the old timers lost their minds, and wanted to burn me at the stake. I figured since we have so much fresh meat, we can let the new guys play, and see what they think. Rules are simple. If you want to play sick with in the senerio, don't wander off into history or self righteousness.
Ok so what if.... witches as per folk tales and scary movies existed? (Not the dbag witch/emo/hippies we do have) but real fly on a broom, steal your children cook and eat them, prey on people in general, no prision can hold them, can only be killed by water or fire, but real as the day is long???
Would it then be ok to have an hold witch hunts of old/Salem witch trials?
What if #2: what if just a few hundred years ago these type of witches really did exist and it wasn't superstition and rampant ignorance that over took people. What if the population was then just as aware of reality as we are now, only that the variable in the equation was reality itself and not our ancestors knoweledge of it? Meaning the supernatural was stronger than it is now?
Would that change your view of what they did and why they did what they did?
No. Throwing water on a person doesn't hurt them. So I'd say force everyone to stand in a line and spray them down with a water hose. Prevents the risk of accidentally burning an innocent though eccentric weirdo at the stake.
what if everyone in the town is a witch well damn there goes the whole town. police, fire dpt, local hospital nurses and doctors, and people that pretty much keep the town stable and its citizens. well then congrats you own a whole state and town to yourself.
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RE: It time for another What if... Thread!
October 23, 2014 at 2:00 pm
(October 23, 2014 at 1:10 pm)Drich Wrote: (October 23, 2014 at 12:01 pm)Stimbo Wrote: So what are we doing here, entertaining a scenario in which someone is defined to be totally irredeemable and malevolent and the only solution is to burn them alive - and then you seem surprised when someone advocates burning them alive?
no judgement just showing a chink in the armor of morality most of you wear.
How is following a scenario that you painted, in which you get to choose the allowable parameters, a reflection on anyone's morality other than your own? What you're doing, basically, is asking us to draw you a picture of a witch being burned, then pointing and saying, "hey everybody - look what the nasty atheists have drawn! I thought they were supposed to be the moral ones!"
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Were you thinking of the number 6? Hey, look at that! And you had a totally free choice, too! *
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RE: It time for another What if... Thread!
October 23, 2014 at 2:07 pm
(October 23, 2014 at 1:58 pm)dyresand Wrote: (October 23, 2014 at 1:55 pm)Losty Wrote: No. Throwing water on a person doesn't hurt them. So I'd say force everyone to stand in a line and spray them down with a water hose. Prevents the risk of accidentally burning an innocent though eccentric weirdo at the stake.
what if everyone in the town is a witch well damn there goes the whole town. police, fire dpt, local hospital nurses and doctors, and people that pretty much keep the town stable and its citizens. well then congrats you own a whole state and town to yourself.
So what? Drich said they steal children and do bad stuff right. They're like "evil" witches in a fantasy world...I've got no qualms with spraying down the lot of them.
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October 23, 2014 at 2:25 pm
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Why would demons need humans to do their magic if humans can't perform magic?
What would be the proof that fire is the only way to get rid of a demon? A book saying so is not good enough proof.
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RE: It time for another What if... Thread!
October 23, 2014 at 2:35 pm
(October 23, 2014 at 2:25 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Why would demons need humans to do their magic if humans can't perform magic?
What would be the proof that fire is the only way to get rid of a demon? A book saying so is not good enough proof.
exactly... so if a human can do some magic he is labeled a demon and it doesn't matter how much that person/demon does good it still deserves to get burned because a book said so... yeah some morality..
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RE: It time for another What if... Thread!
October 23, 2014 at 2:57 pm
(October 23, 2014 at 1:10 pm)Drich Wrote: no judgement just showing a chink in the armor of morality most of you wear.
What chink? That burning the baby eating witches is the only way to actually get rid of them? How is that morally wrong when the alternative is to just let them do it. Well I don't know, is there an alternative? Is there any other way to get rid of witches then burn them? It's your scenario here.
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