Why Something Rather Than Nothing?

[Chas]

The point is we believe in things that are shown have evidence for. We don't spend time worring about all the what if beliefs.

We recently did a thread on synthetic life and how it demonstrates lineages of life can come into existence as the products of intellects. There is no demonstration that lineages of life can come into existence via some natural process.....yet you atheists still believe it does.

Claiming that atheistic world views are free from assertions is wrong.

And there is no evidence of any other such intelligence.

[Surgenator]

The point is we believe in things that are shown have evidence for. We don't spend time worring about all the what if beliefs.

We recently did a thread on synthetic life and how it demonstrates lineages of life can come into existence as the products of intellects. There is no demonstration that lineages of life can come into existence via some natural process.....yet you atheists still believe it does.

Claiming that atheistic world views are free from assertions is wrong.

google "abiogenesis" and "god of the gaps" before you make such a claim.

[DramaQueen]

[Chas]

There is no credible evidence for anything except the natural world.

That's a nice positive statement that seems to cover all concepts of God. There is no evidence for anything even remotely Godlike.

You, Chas, then are different from Esquilax who says negatively:

Yes, and we address god claims on a case by case basis. Just because we don't find one concept of god to be valid, doesn't mean we won't find another valid,

though you are both atheists.

I am not responsible for Esquilax, nor he for me. We don't necessarily not worship the same non-god.

[Heywood]

google "abiogenesis" and "god of the gaps" before you make such a claim.

Nobody has ever seen abiogenesis....so why should you believe it has happened?

[datc]

I am not responsible for Esquilax, nor he for me. We don't necessarily not worship the same non-god.

One difference between you then is that you can, and Esquilax cannot, agree with Dawkins that

"We are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further."

That's because for Esquilax, the next god he has not yet conceived of and evaluated may just happen to be the true God, while you have rejected all such possibilities already.

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Wouldn't that make Esquilax an agnostic?

[Chas]

I am not responsible for Esquilax, nor he for me. We don't necessarily not worship the same non-god.

One difference between you then is that you can, and Esquilax cannot, agree with Dawkins that

"We are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further."

That's because for Esquilax, the next god he has not yet conceived of and evaluated may just happen to be the true God, while you have rejected all such possibilities already.

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Wouldn't that make Esquilax an agnostic?

Your logic is faulty. I said every god yet described. Do try to keep up.

[datc]

How about we agree to an intermediate statement:

It's up to a theist to present a concept of God and to provide reasons why it refers, and it's up to an atheist to follow and understand the argument and to evaluate it fairly.

The point is, we all have to, well, think hard.

[Surgenator]

google "abiogenesis" and "god of the gaps" before you make such a claim.

Nobody has ever seen abiogenesis....so why should you believe it has happened?

Do I really have to do everything for you? You could of at least read what is currently been done. Second, your argunment is a god-of-the-gaps variation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis...generation

Iron-sulfur surfaces, which are abundant near hydrothermal vents, are also capable of producing small amounts of amino acids and other biological metabolites.

In 1961, it was shown that the nucleic acid purine base adenine can be formed by heating aqueous ammonium cyanide solutions. Other pathways for synthesizing bases from inorganic materials were also reported.

I'm posting only two. There are more.

[DramaQueen]

There should be a statement that most atheists are agnostic in the main page