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How can you say "take responsibility for your life"?
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RE: How can you say "take responsibility for your life"?
(October 26, 2014 at 4:26 pm)MusicLovingAtheist Wrote: You were pushed out of someone's fucking vagina against your will.

You were incapable of having a will at the time. In hindsight you may not want to have been born but you can't say you were born against your will.

(October 26, 2014 at 4:26 pm)MusicLovingAtheist Wrote: You were socialized against your will.

Unless you have some kind of genuine mental problem, as a child, socializing and having friends is the easiest thing in the world and it comes completely naturally. I doubt you were forced to play with other children.

(October 26, 2014 at 4:26 pm)MusicLovingAtheist Wrote: You were sent to school against your will.

Your parents hands are tied there. You have to go to school, its the law. And it equips you with life skills and knowledge so you can function and thrive in the real world, but no, act as if going to school was a bad thing.

(October 26, 2014 at 4:26 pm)MusicLovingAtheist Wrote: You are expected to survive on this planet against you will.

Most people like living and if you don't want to live on this planet, you know where the door is. It's not like you are being kept here against your will.

(October 26, 2014 at 4:26 pm)MusicLovingAtheist Wrote: I am a fucking volunteer in this life. People shouldn't tell me to shut the fuck up and deal with it when I express that I have a problem with my life. I don't even know what kind of response just saying that would get me. It's usually people saying that I am just being a whiny piece of shit.

Well it really depends on what your problem is. You haven't given us any actual examples. And being truthful here, all you have ever done on this forum is complain, so when they call you a whiny piece of shit, I have to agree with them.

(October 26, 2014 at 4:26 pm)MusicLovingAtheist Wrote: They might even say to think about how privileged I am. What a condescending and snide thing to think. If you really think you're better than me because you've mastered success in your life, good for you. Leave me alone.

They aren't saying they are better than you. They're saying that you are extremely lucky to be born in the USA, the land of the free, the land of opportunity. You have a roof over your head, food on your table, parents who look after and pay for you, energy, toilets, TV and internet. Most of the 7 billion other people on the planet don't have these things. We all take things for granted but you should consider that you are in-fact, extremely fortunate. Maybe you should go travelling to places like India and Africa. See the slums and how some people live. That's always a humbling experience.

(October 26, 2014 at 4:26 pm)MusicLovingAtheist Wrote: What offends me so much is instead of trying to help me fix the problems in my life people just act like they have no fucking empathy for how I feel.

Your problem seems to be with life itself.

(October 26, 2014 at 4:26 pm)MusicLovingAtheist Wrote: My own parents just say shit like "well everyone goes through these kinds of days". IS LIFE REALLY SO FUCKING SHITTY THAT EVERYONE FEELS LIKE LIFE IS ABSOLUTE SHIT EVERY DAY!? IS THAT REALLY WHAT EVERYONE ELSE THINKS?

No, they are saying that everybody has bad days but we still survive. And that stewing in a pool of our own sadness and self loathing doesn't help.

(October 26, 2014 at 4:26 pm)MusicLovingAtheist Wrote: I have fucking had it with this bullshit. I don't know if I am going to drop out of college. I am falling behind on all my assignments and I left class early because I was being antagonized by kids in the class.

If you talk to them like you talk to us, I wouldn't be surprised.

(October 26, 2014 at 4:26 pm)MusicLovingAtheist Wrote: The college fucking classroom that I fucking payed for

*Your parents paid for.

(October 26, 2014 at 4:26 pm)MusicLovingAtheist Wrote: that people were giving me a hard time in. I'm so fucking lonely. I want my own place to live, on a campus, in a relaxed environment around other people so I can finally connect with people outside the internet.

But one of your problems is with people. Is there any type of person that you think you could actually get along with?

(October 26, 2014 at 4:26 pm)MusicLovingAtheist Wrote: But no! My parents are too fucking poor to do anything about it. Whenever I say something about how I feel they just say "yeah that must be frustrating". YEAH WHAT'S FRUSTRATING IS YOU WANT ME TO PULL MYSELF UP BY MY FUCKING BOOT STRAPS AND DO ALL THIS FUCKING INSANE SHIT TO GET THROUGH THIS YEAR! FUCK YOU!!!!!

You're complaining of no support but have you ever tried seeing a therapist at all? Obviously the support of friends and family is off the table for you so a professional seems to be the only option here.
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain

'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House

“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom

"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
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#62
RE: How can you say "take responsibility for your life"?
Oh..this shit again..
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson
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#63
RE: How can you say "take responsibility for your life"?
I think the ignore function needs to be improved. It hides their posts but it gives me the option to unhide them. It's just too tempting to unhide them and see what they're saying. I'd rather not be aware that they're there in the first place so I don't have to think about them. It's always the same people who are harassing me too. I deal with people harassing me at school and I don't need to come home and have the same thing happen to me in my own home. Please leave me alone, all you people who just want to scorn me. I don't want anything to do with you and I don't appreciate the things you have to say.
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#64
RE: How can you say "take responsibility for your life"?
(October 27, 2014 at 3:50 am)Bad Wolf Wrote:
(October 26, 2014 at 4:26 pm)MusicLovingAtheist Wrote: You were pushed out of someone's fucking vagina against your will.

You were incapable of having a will at the time. In hindsight you may not want to have been born but you can't say you were born against your will.

(October 26, 2014 at 4:26 pm)MusicLovingAtheist Wrote: You were socialized against your will.

Unless you have some kind of genuine mental problem, as a child, socializing and having friends is the easiest thing in the world and it comes completely naturally. I doubt you were forced to play with other children.

(October 26, 2014 at 4:26 pm)MusicLovingAtheist Wrote: You were sent to school against your will.

Your parents hands are tied there. You have to go to school, its the law. And it equips you with life skills and knowledge so you can function and thrive in the real world, but no, act as if going to school was a bad thing.

(October 26, 2014 at 4:26 pm)MusicLovingAtheist Wrote: You are expected to survive on this planet against you will.

Most people like living and if you don't want to live on this planet, you know where the door is. It's not like you are being kept here against your will.

(October 26, 2014 at 4:26 pm)MusicLovingAtheist Wrote: I am a fucking volunteer in this life. People shouldn't tell me to shut the fuck up and deal with it when I express that I have a problem with my life. I don't even know what kind of response just saying that would get me. It's usually people saying that I am just being a whiny piece of shit.

Well it really depends on what your problem is. You haven't given us any actual examples. And being truthful here, all you have ever done on this forum is complain, so when they call you a whiny piece of shit, I have to agree with them.

(October 26, 2014 at 4:26 pm)MusicLovingAtheist Wrote: They might even say to think about how privileged I am. What a condescending and snide thing to think. If you really think you're better than me because you've mastered success in your life, good for you. Leave me alone.

They aren't saying they are better than you. They're saying that you are extremely lucky to be born in the USA, the land of the free, the land of opportunity. You have a roof over your head, food on your table, parents who look after and pay for you, energy, toilets, TV and internet. Most of the 7 billion other people on the planet don't have these things. We all take things for granted but you should consider that you are in-fact, extremely fortunate. Maybe you should go travelling to places like India and Africa. See the slums and how some people live. That's always a humbling experience.

(October 26, 2014 at 4:26 pm)MusicLovingAtheist Wrote: What offends me so much is instead of trying to help me fix the problems in my life people just act like they have no fucking empathy for how I feel.

Your problem seems to be with life itself.

(October 26, 2014 at 4:26 pm)MusicLovingAtheist Wrote: My own parents just say shit like "well everyone goes through these kinds of days". IS LIFE REALLY SO FUCKING SHITTY THAT EVERYONE FEELS LIKE LIFE IS ABSOLUTE SHIT EVERY DAY!? IS THAT REALLY WHAT EVERYONE ELSE THINKS?

No, they are saying that everybody has bad days but we still survive. And that stewing in a pool of our own sadness and self loathing doesn't help.

(October 26, 2014 at 4:26 pm)MusicLovingAtheist Wrote: I have fucking had it with this bullshit. I don't know if I am going to drop out of college. I am falling behind on all my assignments and I left class early because I was being antagonized by kids in the class.

If you talk to them like you talk to us, I wouldn't be surprised.

(October 26, 2014 at 4:26 pm)MusicLovingAtheist Wrote: The college fucking classroom that I fucking payed for

*Your parents paid for.

(October 26, 2014 at 4:26 pm)MusicLovingAtheist Wrote: that people were giving me a hard time in. I'm so fucking lonely. I want my own place to live, on a campus, in a relaxed environment around other people so I can finally connect with people outside the internet.

But one of your problems is with people. Is there any type of person that you think you could actually get along with?

(October 26, 2014 at 4:26 pm)MusicLovingAtheist Wrote: But no! My parents are too fucking poor to do anything about it. Whenever I say something about how I feel they just say "yeah that must be frustrating". YEAH WHAT'S FRUSTRATING IS YOU WANT ME TO PULL MYSELF UP BY MY FUCKING BOOT STRAPS AND DO ALL THIS FUCKING INSANE SHIT TO GET THROUGH THIS YEAR! FUCK YOU!!!!!

You're complaining of no support but have you ever tried seeing a therapist at all? Obviously the support of friends and family is off the table for you so a professional seems to be the only option here.

...and a darn good option regardless. As much as it's tedious being around somebody with MLA's issues, the responses to him (well, many of them, anyhow) have almost been like a free session with my own counselor. And it's been good. Hopefully he can take a step back, drop all defenses for a bit, and listen. Truly listen, with intent.
"For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." - Carl Sagan
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#65
RE: How can you say "take responsibility for your life"?
(October 27, 2014 at 8:36 am)MusicLovingAtheist Wrote: I think the ignore function needs to be improved. It hides their posts but it gives me the option to unhide them. It's just too tempting to unhide them and see what they're saying. I'd rather not be aware that they're there in the first place so I don't have to think about them. It's always the same people who are harassing me too. I deal with people harassing me at school and I don't need to come home and have the same thing happen to me in my own home. Please leave me alone, all you people who just want to scorn me. I don't want anything to do with you and I don't appreciate the things you have to say.

Harrasment? Is this a joke? I responded to your OP where I thought your reasoning was wrong. I wasn't rude, I didn't insult you, I addressed what you said. Why do you always see a difference in opinion as a slight on your person? And please, you don't want this in your own home? Close the bloody laptop, stand up and walk away from your desk. Go read a book or watch tv. Harrasment.....what a joke.
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain

'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House

“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom

"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
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RE: How can you say "take responsibility for your life"?
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RE: How can you say "take responsibility for your life"?
(October 27, 2014 at 10:00 am)Bad Wolf Wrote:
(October 27, 2014 at 8:36 am)MusicLovingAtheist Wrote: I think the ignore function needs to be improved. It hides their posts but it gives me the option to unhide them. It's just too tempting to unhide them and see what they're saying. I'd rather not be aware that they're there in the first place so I don't have to think about them. It's always the same people who are harassing me too. I deal with people harassing me at school and I don't need to come home and have the same thing happen to me in my own home. Please leave me alone, all you people who just want to scorn me. I don't want anything to do with you and I don't appreciate the things you have to say.

Harrasment? Is this a joke? I responded to your OP where I thought your reasoning was wrong. I wasn't rude, I didn't insult you, I addressed what you said. Why do you always see a difference in opinion as a slight on your person? And please, you don't want this in your own home? Close the bloody laptop, stand up and walk away from your desk. Go read a book or watch tv. Harrasment.....what a joke.
I didn't read what you said because you have been so rude to me in the past. I was responding more to faithandfaithless and a few other people itt.
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#68
RE: How can you say "take responsibility for your life"?
(October 26, 2014 at 4:52 pm)MusicLovingAtheist Wrote: Thank you. You are the first person that I can remember that has given a decent response to me on this website that I can recall. Every day I come here and post something to see if anyone actually has the decency to make a respectful response. It finally happened.

(October 19, 2014 at 2:22 am)Losty Wrote: Hmm...I think generally people react negatively to this type of attitude because they don't know how to deal with it. It makes people uncomfortable. It's like when you say "hey how are you?" and the person says "terrible!" an then you're all like...uhh...because you just expect everyone to say fine.
Also, it's probably somewhat because we all have these feelings to some extent or another and we are taught that it is valued to be the type of person who hides these feelings. We are taught that always being able to maintain composure is a valuable trait. To an extent that is a good thing. For many reasons. If you let hatred and discontent be all you think about, it will completely take over your life and you won't be able to find any peace or happiness in anything. Also, because if it's all you ever talk about you eventually become a burden to other people in your life and they want to spend less time with you. Take this forum for example. If you were to have just one thread where you constantly posted about all the things and people you hate so much, and then post only non-hateful neutral and/or positive posts everywhere else I think it would be easier to deal with.
I see your posts everywhere and they are so hostile and filled with so much hatred and anger that even reading them stresses me out. I have enough stress in my own life, so sometimes when you go on a posting spree of anger and hatred I get frustrated because of it.
Hatred, anger, intolerance etc. are not inherently bad things, but too much of them can be unhealthy.
I have to be overly optimistic most of the time. The reason being that if I'm not it's really easy for me to end up right where you are. Always negative about everything. I let my negativity out differently than you so instead of being hateful and angry, I tend to be very sad when I let the negative take over my life. I can send me into an emotional break down. Sometimes when I read your posts I wonder how you can even function with all that hatred and anger.
I suggest you should try to spend time everyday, even just an hour, thinking about all the things you love and all the things that make you happy. Then challenge yourself to see those things in your daily life more often. It's okay to feel the way you feel, but it's not good for you.
Do you like running? It's a good way to ease your mind and let out stress.
Also, hugs and laughter. Especially hugs. I haz some for you now, *Losty hugs MLA*
Goodluck in whatever it is that you're hoping to achieve and I truly hope you find some happiness in your life Heart

(October 22, 2014 at 12:45 am)Losty Wrote: Back when I talked to friends...the ones I had were religious. They're still my friends and we still chat, but they all hang out without me now. Spending time with people is very difficult for me. It's not because I don't like people. I just struggle with PTSD and it's so hard to be around people. Anyways though, Sarah is Jewish, Ronya is Muslim, and Lindsey is Christian. We would hang out, watch movies, talk about life (men, children, school etc.). We all got along quite well. I don't feel like I tolerated them so much as that I enjoyed them. They're all three great people I don't really see what their religion has to do with it.

(October 12, 2014 at 11:24 am)Losty Wrote:
(October 11, 2014 at 4:25 pm)MusicLovingAtheist Wrote: All these people saying just love whoever you want are missing the point. I want to figure out what I am specifically so I can find people who I identify with.

Hmm maybe you're just you. Most people don't fit nicely into specific sexual orientations. I call myself heteroflexible but I suppose I could pass for hetero or bisexual. You could join a69 and find people here that you identify with. Or just get to know some people and see if you can identify with them. I don't think specific labels are all that important but I guess if I had to label you I'd say homosexual, homoflexible, or bisexual.

(October 2, 2014 at 1:22 am)Losty Wrote: You should join the love and hugs thread, it seems like you could use some hugs!


(October 15, 2014 at 1:10 am)Losty Wrote:
(October 14, 2014 at 10:00 pm)MusicLovingAtheist Wrote: I'm sick of my weak, fucked up mind. What people don't get is that I'm aware of how I behave like a moron and it eats me up inside like a bacteria growing inside of me and consuming me, causing me stress. No one can help. I don't know if one day I'll ever be able to not feel this stress. Yet all these people tell me that I am being edgy, immature. They don't know what it's like.

Have you ever tried talking to a therapist? It helps me sometimes. The meds help too but that's just me. You're not as different as you think you are. Most people have fucked up shit in their heads. We just all deal with it differently. *hugs*

People have given you kind, considerate, and respectful responses. If you choose to ignore them...that's on you.
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#69
RE: How can you say "take responsibility for your life"?
He prefers to be antagonized Losty Big Grin
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RE: How can you say "take responsibility for your life"?
(October 27, 2014 at 8:36 am)MusicLovingAtheist Wrote: I think the ignore function needs to be improved. It hides their posts but it gives me the option to unhide them. It's just too tempting to unhide them and see what they're saying. I'd rather not be aware that they're there in the first place so I don't have to think about them. It's always the same people who are harassing me too. I deal with people harassing me at school and I don't need to come home and have the same thing happen to me in my own home. Please leave me alone, all you people who just want to scorn me. I don't want anything to do with you and I don't appreciate the things you have to say.

This post illustrates your reluctance to take personal responsibility for anything; presumably because you were born and educated as a child without consent. You want your parents to make life easier for you. You want classmates to change their behavior so you aren't burdened with emotionally navigating social relationships.

I can empathize with much of what life is throwing at you; as has been stated, many of us has been through it. What it turning people off is the way you are dealing with it. If you are in college you need to start taking care of yourself. My advice:

Living conditions: You do seem appreciative of what your parents are able to provide. If for whatever reason this isn't satisfactory for the relatively short amount of time you need to finish school, go get a part time job. If this doesn't do it for you then maybe you should consider dropping out to seek the immediate gratification you are after. Keep in mind that when I say this I mean for you to go find full time employment and not burden your parents with some form of adult child perpetual residence.

Asshole classmates: Ignore them or tell them to fuck off. Expecting them to magically change their behavior, no matter how atrocious it currently is, is unrealistic. It's simply not going to happen.

Concentrate on what YOU can do to improve your circumstances. Understand that you may just have to deal with shit in the short term knowing that you are working toward a more fulfilling future. A little perspective is also in order. Sharing space with others and dealing with asshole classmates hardly merits the helplessness that your posts exude. Many of us have managed or are still managing through far worse; perhaps the reason why you aren't being coddled as you seem to expect.
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