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RE: you know i made a really good observation
November 3, 2014 at 2:34 pm
(November 3, 2014 at 2:27 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: (November 3, 2014 at 2:16 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: At this point, all I can say is God is only able to make this judgement, But I do know that the only unpardonable sin is to blaspheme the holy spirit, for which there is no forgiveness.
I answered that a long time ago, go back and look.
Care to answer it with a straight answer instead of linking irrelevant quotes? It's a yes or no question Huggs.
The way he talks about faith and god is tiring at best. no straight answer and with that why god created humans anyways...? why does he let them live a life and do wrong and he knows in hind sight who is and who isn't going to hell. so ergo life in the physical world really have no meaning in the first place if he knows were you are going in the end. you can be a great person and never heard of god or jesus chances are your still going to hell. if god and jesus turned out to be real there is no reason why anyone should live anymore in the physical world if they are going to a spiritual one.
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RE: you know i made a really good observation
November 3, 2014 at 3:02 pm
(November 3, 2014 at 2:16 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: (November 3, 2014 at 2:07 pm)jesus_wept Wrote: Just of of interest. Lets say a Christian does murder someone, do you think they can they be forgiven and become a Christian again? Or does the act of murder exclude them from ever being a Christian again?
At this point, all I can say is God is only able to make this judgement, But I do know that the only unpardonable sin is to blaspheme the holy spirit, for which there is no forgiveness.
Tbh I was more interested in whether you would be able to forgive them and call them a Christian again than what you think your god might do. But I think you're clever enough to see where my question was leading and can understand why you wouldn't want to answer it so I'll let your deflection speak for itself.
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RE: you know i made a really good observation
November 3, 2014 at 3:59 pm
(November 1, 2014 at 8:56 pm)dyresand Wrote: Many Christians and theists will disagree but ill say it anyways.
you need Atheists and agnostics and people in general who have no faith or belief in a god. This is saying a lot, could you imagine how the modern world would look like just imagine that there was no such thing as atheists and agnostics the US during ww2 since you claimed its an christian country would have helped Hitler. Why we didn't do it because we are secular we know that what hitler is doing is wrong but biblically its alright and justified.
Why did Protestants and Catholics fight if they were both Christian? Why do the main Muslim sects always fight each other? Why does the Tea Party not submit to the establishment Republicans?
People don't support other people solely because they're nominally part of the same group.
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RE: you know i made a really good observation
November 3, 2014 at 4:16 pm
(November 3, 2014 at 3:59 pm)RobbyPants Wrote: (November 1, 2014 at 8:56 pm)dyresand Wrote: Many Christians and theists will disagree but ill say it anyways.
you need Atheists and agnostics and people in general who have no faith or belief in a god. This is saying a lot, could you imagine how the modern world would look like just imagine that there was no such thing as atheists and agnostics the US during ww2 since you claimed its an christian country would have helped Hitler. Why we didn't do it because we are secular we know that what hitler is doing is wrong but biblically its alright and justified.
Why did Protestants and Catholics fight if they were both Christian? Why do the main Muslim sects always fight each other? Why does the Tea Party not submit to the establishment Republicans?
People don't support other people solely because they're nominally part of the same group.
because all their views all bullshit....
its nearly the same but with different deities.
all of them are crazy bonze age mythology that needs to go away.
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RE: you know i made a really good observation
November 3, 2014 at 8:32 pm
(November 3, 2014 at 2:27 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Care to answer it with a straight answer instead of linking irrelevant quotes? It's a yes or no question Huggs.
Yes.
Death is simply a transition from one place to another...but then, so is birth.
"But dying involves suffering" you might say. So does birth.
None of us view a child being born as a bad thing even though there is an incredible amount of suffering involved. Likewise From God's point of view, the process of leaving this earthly realm and being born into his kingdom is a joyous occasion, hence:
Psalm 116:15
Precious in the sight of the Lord is the death of his saints.
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RE: you know i made a really good observation
November 3, 2014 at 8:38 pm
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-and if you're not one of "his saints" not so precious after all eh? Seems arbitrary but who cares. Plenty of things more precious in my sight than the death of saints (or anyone). We must be talking about a little g god huh?
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RE: you know i made a really good observation
November 3, 2014 at 8:44 pm
(November 3, 2014 at 8:38 pm)Rhythm Wrote: -and if you're not one of "his saints" not so precious after all eh?
That by your choice, not his. There has been provisions made so that no one has to perish, and it free of charge, all one has to do is believe and accept it.
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RE: you know i made a really good observation
November 3, 2014 at 9:55 pm
(November 3, 2014 at 8:44 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: (November 3, 2014 at 8:38 pm)Rhythm Wrote: -and if you're not one of "his saints" not so precious after all eh?
That by your choice, not his. There has been provisions made so that no one has to perish, and it free of charge, all one has to do is believe and accept it.
ill say again all human life is useless if god knows who and who isn't going to hell. why bother going through the problem giving us a physical pained filled existence when he is going to end it one day and give us a life in eternity. he should take back the free will and force us to stay in the garden and remove the cursed apple. he hates intelligence he loves the ignorance.
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RE: you know i made a really good observation
November 5, 2014 at 4:58 am
1. You don't "need" anything, technically.
2. The Bible does not support what Hitler did. Remember when the Bible said that murderers have no eternal life (1 John 3:15)
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