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Atheists: What if a grieving woman
November 5, 2014 at 8:37 am
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desperately drowned herself in order for you to confess to the lord
Would that make you feel guilty 
If that stuff happend to one you knew closeby. I just watched a christian cartoon of a stubborn guy. Although i know atheism is not about hating god, but in this case. Would that leave a bad conscious if that stuff happend
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RE: Atheists: What if a grieving woman
November 5, 2014 at 8:42 am
Would it make me feel guilty? No. It's her own stupidity that would make her do that and that's in no way influenced by me.
For her family? Probably, yes.
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RE: Atheists: What if a grieving woman
November 5, 2014 at 8:43 am
I'm guessing you aren't actually an atheist?
And no, it wouldn't make me feel guilty. I don't know how exactly drowning ones self would make me believe in god but I would feel angry and the religion for indoctrinating her so much.
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House
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RE: Atheists: What if a grieving woman
November 5, 2014 at 8:48 am
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(November 5, 2014 at 8:42 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: Would it make me feel guilty? No. It's her own stupidity that would make her do that and that's in no way influenced by me.
For her family? Probably, yes.
But what if her family was like her.
But then again the guy regreted. I mean it was more like a "The Count of Monte Cristo" plot. Only that one started as a servant, then ended up stealing gold and leaving its past behind. Revenge for the bad stuff in the past and all that basically. Considered hard hearted and then asked Paul the Apostle for forgiveness for what he had done to his family.
Its more based on guilt.
Edit: Here is the episode if you wanna see for yourself. I like some of the lessons. I mean i don't actually believe in the abrahamic religions though in sense of being real.
http://www.cbn.com/tv/1417068248001
Quote: I'm guessing you aren't actually an atheist?
I am. Just look at the archeological evidence of israels history.
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RE: Atheists: What if a grieving woman
November 5, 2014 at 9:01 am
What if she drowned because she felt so close to the lord that she believed that she too could walk on water?
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RE: Atheists: What if a grieving woman
November 5, 2014 at 9:07 am
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(November 5, 2014 at 8:37 am)Rufius Wrote: desperately drowned herself in order for you to confess to the lord
Would that make you feel guilty
No, but if she was dying for someone who wasn't me: I'm pissed. And I mean, I could be rightly jealous. Why are you committing suicide if you're not doing it for *me*?
It just doesn't make sense, Roofie.
Quote:If that stuff happend to one you knew closeby. I just watched a christian cartoon of a stubborn guy. Although i know atheism is not about hating god, but in this case. Would that leave a bad conscious if that stuff happend
I doubt my conscious would be affected, no matter who commits suicide. It'd be a sad day should a loved one do such... but it's not about to change my very worldview or morality 
(November 5, 2014 at 9:01 am)Cato Wrote: What if she drowned because she felt so close to the lord that she believed that she too could walk on water?
Then she has gone to a better place.
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
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RE: Atheists: What if a grieving woman
November 5, 2014 at 9:14 am
Guilt would not be the word. Sorrow that she was in such a dark place, and I was unable to help her see a better day.
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RE: Atheists: What if a grieving woman
November 5, 2014 at 9:18 am
(November 5, 2014 at 9:07 am)Alice Wrote: Then she has gone to a better place.
To each her own I suppose. The bottom of a lake, river, or ocean is a little too dark, damp, cold and oxygen deficient to be considered better for my tastes.
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RE: Atheists: What if a grieving woman
November 5, 2014 at 9:22 am
(November 5, 2014 at 9:18 am)Cato Wrote: To each her own I suppose. The bottom of a lake, river, or ocean is a little too dark, damp, cold and oxygen deficient to be considered better for my tastes.
I find that such delusions are usually indicative of a mind prison... and that the peace of death is the only kindness that life is guaranteed to offer.
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Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
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RE: Atheists: What if a grieving woman
November 5, 2014 at 9:24 am
If it would stop someone drowning themselves in a given situation, I would "confess to the lord" and try to make it convincing. If they made a habit of it and kept asking me to do it all the time, I'd try and get them professional help.
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