The O'Crappy Factor.

[The Grand Nudger]

The money comes from taxing rich people and rich companies like Walmart.

Wait...you man they pay anyway? Wonder of wonders. Howsabout they only pay the wages of the workers they employ? Why is it their responsibility to foot the bill for your welfare state? Ever heard the phrase "please consider this as part of your total compensation"? Yeah, add welfare to the list - because Walmart would.

[Heywood]

FYI just on the issue of science O'Reilly is a douchebag. We do know what causes the tides. And that moron has a huge audience and spreading bad claims to gullible viewers is always something that needs to be challenged. You make stupid claims about nature and science, damned right I am going to call you out on it. Our planet does not need more stupid people. If anyone thinks I need to coddle the insecurities of those who make bad claims, they are barking up the wrong tree. The right to make stupid claims also includes the right to challenge stupid claims. Any idiot claiming we cannot explain what causes the tides deserves to be called an idiot.

O'reilly is a moron for the tides thing....but he is probably smarter than you.

[Brian37]

FYI just on the issue of science O'Reilly is a douchebag. We do know what causes the tides. And that moron has a huge audience and spreading bad claims to gullible viewers is always something that needs to be challenged. You make stupid claims about nature and science, damned right I am going to call you out on it. Our planet does not need more stupid people. If anyone thinks I need to coddle the insecurities of those who make bad claims, they are barking up the wrong tree. The right to make stupid claims also includes the right to challenge stupid claims. Any idiot claiming we cannot explain what causes the tides deserves to be called an idiot.

O'reilly is a moron for the tides thing....but he is probably smarter than you.

Nope, he will always be a dumbass. Oh, thats right, wealth automatically equals smart.

There is nothing you could offer me at all that would ever make me want to trade places with that idiot.

[Heywood]

O'reilly is a moron for the tides thing....but he is probably smarter than you.

Nope, he will always be a dumbass. Oh, thats right, wealth automatically equals smart.

There is nothing you could offer me at all that would ever make me want to trade places with that idiot.

For all I know you are wealthier than O'reilly. Wealth has nothing to do with my judgement here. I have figured him to be smarter than you because I have looked at his work and looked at your work. You are obviously the bigger moron based on what you both say and not based on your net worth.

[Brian37]

Neil deGrasse Tyson is smart. Darwin was smart. Tesla was smart. Shakespeare was smart. Edgar Allen Poe was smart. And in my 48 years I have known countless people that will never be famous or rich that are much smarter than that moron.

[abaris]

For all I know you are wealthier than O'reilly. Wealth has nothing to do with my judgement here. I have figured him to be smarter than you because I have looked at his work and looked at your work. You are obviously the bigger moron based on what you both say and not based on your net worth.

And what does that make you? I mean, looking at your post record only.

[Heywood]

For all I know you are wealthier than O'reilly. Wealth has nothing to do with my judgement here. I have figured him to be smarter than you because I have looked at his work and looked at your work. You are obviously the bigger moron based on what you both say and not based on your net worth.

And what does that make you? I mean, looking at your post record only.

It makes me smarter than Brian37.

[Brian37]

Nope, he will always be a dumbass. Oh, thats right, wealth automatically equals smart.

There is nothing you could offer me at all that would ever make me want to trade places with that idiot.

For all I know you are wealthier than O'reilly. Wealth has nothing to do with my judgement here. I have figured him to be smarter than you because I have looked at his work and looked at your work. You are obviously the bigger moron based on what you both say and not based on your net worth.

Yes because humans are just numbers and not humans. You want me to give a fuck about being measured in dollars? Barking up the wrong tree there buddy. You like equating humans to objects, you can do that, I don't. Humans are not money nor are they objects.

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And what does that make you? I mean, looking at your post record only.

It makes me smarter than Brian37.

Said the guy with an invisible friend.

Silly me accepting the age of the planet and sun as 4 billion years old. Silly of me to accept the universe as being 13 billion years. Silly of me to accept that no religions humans hold today were around 200,000 years ago. Silly of me to accept that billions of years from now our planet will die. Silly of me to accept our sun also has a life span and it will die too.

Nope, my lot in life is to work and consume and make money or be a tool so someone else can get rich, despite the fact that both rich and poor die the same.

I just had a thought, I'll start worshiping Thor because I can observe lightening.

Thanks for the lecture on morality and reality. You do teach me one thing. You serve as an example of what human narcissism looks like.

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Heywood, you expecting me to be impressed with you is silly. Now watch this video and keep watching it until you get it. Hopefully if you ever do you will understand me.

[Heywood]

The money comes from taxing rich people and rich companies like Walmart.

Wait...you man they pay anyway? Wonder of wonders. Howsabout they only pay the wages of the workers they employ? Why is it their responsibility to foot the bill for your welfare state? Ever heard the phrase "please consider this as part of your total compensation"? Yeah, add welfare to the list - because Walmart would.

Walmart already foots the bill for your welfare state. What I am proposing is a less complicated, more efficient and more fair state. I propose this state because I have come to realize that as a society it is simply evil to make it illegal for the least productive, least desirable workers to sell their labor at market wages. I propose this state because I realize that our current gains in productivity and future gains in productivity will mean most people will not have to work. I propose this state because I don't want to see a future state in which the government tells my children how much to spend on food, how much to spend on housing, how much to spend on utilities, how much to spend on communication etc. I want my children to enjoy the freedom I enjoy and further enjoy the ability not to have to work if they do not want too because of productions gains made by society as a whole.

[The Grand Nudger]

Walmart already foots the bill for your welfare state.

I would certainly hope so, since they're a major recipient of it despite not actually requiring welfare, or being technically eligible.....

What I am proposing is a less complicated, more efficient and more fair state. I propose this state because I have come to realize that as a society it is simply evil to make it illegal for the least productive, least desirable workers to sell their labor at market wages.

I think that it might be a bit too far to call that evil. The workers and the state want a minimum wage, the business has agreed to it. They can decide not to, they can go elsewhere. They don't. No one is forcing Walmart to have stores in the US and I'm sure that a hefty portion of the US would be glad to see them go. Not me, I like Walmart, but meh.

I propose this state because I realize that our current gains in productivity and future gains in productivity will mean most people will not have to work.

Then why do they need some basic wage? If things become so cheap as to be essentially free (the only way that the majority of us wouldn't need work) then our discussion becomes moot. No current system is designed or equipped to handle a reality like that.

I propose this state because I don't want to see a future state in which the government tells my children how much to spend on food, how much to spend on housing, how much to spend on utilities, how much to spend on communication etc.

Which is exactly what welfare does, basic wage included. You think that they're going to stop doing that while -increasing- the welfare state? Why?

I want my children to enjoy the freedom I enjoy and further enjoy the ability not to have to work because of productions gains made by society as a whole.

Then set them up, don't ask Walmart or me to subsidize the fantasy life you have in mind for your children Heywood.......christ man....take a little responsibility.