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RE: If the universe was fine tuned for our life...
November 30, 2014 at 2:04 pm
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(November 30, 2014 at 1:50 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: (November 30, 2014 at 1:06 pm)oukoida Wrote: ...wouldn't it be much like a Minecraft world? Flat, infinite, with (potentially) infinite resources and without many of the dangers and complexities of the real world? Especially considering that the creator God is proposed (at least by the major monotheistic religions) as an omnipotent being, why would he create a universe where most of the space is empty and/or unsuitable for human life?
If he wanted a huge sandbox to make us humans live and to test us, why not make the whole of the universe like that? After all, he can pop things into existence, pretty much like a computer does when it generates a Minecraft world.
So, the question is: is Notch more intelligent a designer than Yahweh/Allah/Jehovah?
Or is Notch just copying God's design?
Minecraft is a sub reality of our reality. Our reality is likely a sub reality of some larger reality. We know that intellects create sub-realities. Minecraft is evidence of such. We don't know that sub realities come into existence without any intellect.
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RE: If the universe was fine tuned for our life...
November 30, 2014 at 2:05 pm
(November 30, 2014 at 1:43 pm)Heywood Wrote: (November 30, 2014 at 1:40 pm)IATIA Wrote: Black holes allow nothing to escape. Any 'warmth' would be a result of accelerating matter generating too much radiation to allow life.
Negative IATIA...black holes radiate Hawking's radiation. Unproven theory at this time and regardless, the gamma rays from the accelerating mass would still prohibit life.
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RE: If the universe was fine tuned for our life...
November 30, 2014 at 2:10 pm
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(November 30, 2014 at 2:04 pm)Heywood Wrote: Minecraft is a sub reality of our reality. Our reality is likely a sub reality of some larger reality. We know that intellects create sub-realities. Minecraft is evidence of such. We don't know that sub realities come into existence without any intellect. Actually we do, if you're allowing the wash between "our reality" and minecraft.
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RE: If the universe was fine tuned for our life...
November 30, 2014 at 2:20 pm
(November 30, 2014 at 2:10 pm)Rhythm Wrote: (November 30, 2014 at 2:04 pm)Heywood Wrote: Minecraft is a sub reality of our reality. Our reality is likely a sub reality of some larger reality. We know that intellects create sub-realities. Minecraft is evidence of such. We don't know that sub realities come into existence without any intellect. Actually we do, if you're allowing the wash between "our reality" and minecraft.
What do you mean by "wash between"? Minecraft reality is dependent on our reality....but it does not come into existence without the presence of an intellect. It appears that sub realities only come into existence via the hand of some intellect. It appears that our reality is a sub reality. Therefore there is reason to believe our reality came into existence via the hand of an intellect.
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RE: If the universe was fine tuned for our life...
November 30, 2014 at 2:22 pm
(November 30, 2014 at 2:04 pm)Heywood Wrote: (November 30, 2014 at 1:50 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: Or is Notch just copying God's design?
Minecraft is a sub reality of our reality.
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RE: If the universe was fine tuned for our life...
November 30, 2014 at 2:49 pm
Do you suppose that we're are all characters in a 'computer game' played by some extra-universal aliens?
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RE: If the universe was fine tuned for our life...
November 30, 2014 at 2:55 pm
(November 30, 2014 at 2:49 pm)Smaug Wrote: Do you suppose that we're are all characters in a 'computer game' played by some extra-universal aliens?
If so, however is the guy macromanaging me.... He sucks! Fucking n00b.
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RE: If the universe was fine tuned for our life...
November 30, 2014 at 3:00 pm
(November 30, 2014 at 2:49 pm)Smaug Wrote: Do you suppose that we're are all characters in a 'computer game' played by some extra-universal aliens?
This is not an unreasonable proposition.
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RE: If the universe was fine tuned for our life...
November 30, 2014 at 3:02 pm
This is not an unreasonable proposition.
Well even if so, it's just as pointless to us as any other principally unprovable hypothesis.
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RE: If the universe was fine tuned for our life...
November 30, 2014 at 3:09 pm
(November 30, 2014 at 2:05 pm)IATIA Wrote: (November 30, 2014 at 1:43 pm)Heywood Wrote: Negative IATIA...black holes radiate Hawking's radiation. Unproven theory at this time and regardless, the gamma rays from the accelerating mass would still prohibit life.
You don't want to pursue doubting Hawking Radiation without a careful study of the calculated spectrum of it first.
Really.
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