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Reliability of the creation account
#41
RE: Reliability of the creation account
(December 7, 2014 at 4:48 pm)robvalue Wrote: He was clearly testing them to see if they would obey him, with death as a deterrent. And he was lying. Saying it's OK because it was 900 years later is weak.

The name of a tree does not usually contain information about what happens to you when you eat it's fruit. Expecting Adam to know it would actually give you knowledge is a bit of a stretch, especially as God was trying to stop them by threatening death so didn't want him to know this. At best he was implying you get knowledge but die.

And not knowing what good and evil are, he had no idea what that even meant.

God was not being up front. He was taking advantage of helpless people for his own amusement.
So what is your point?

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#42
RE: Reliability of the creation account
Can't speak for Rob, but the creation account is nothing more than a fairy tale. Just like the other accounts posted on previous pages.
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#43
RE: Reliability of the creation account
So evolution is a fairy tale as it is also a creation account?

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#44
RE: Reliability of the creation account
(December 7, 2014 at 5:01 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: So evolution is a fairy tale as it is also a creation account?

No, it's not a creation account. Just look it up. The basics may be sufficient.
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#45
RE: Reliability of the creation account
It is a theory that states how the universe was formed, therefore by your statement if with all the ohers is a fairytale.

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#46
RE: Reliability of the creation account
Evolution says nothing about how the Universe formed.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#47
RE: Reliability of the creation account
(December 7, 2014 at 5:04 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: It is a theory that states how the universe was formed, therefore by your statement if with all the ohers is a fairytale.

Theory, scientific definition. Been there about a million times.

http://www.livescience.com/21491-what-is...heory.html

So no, not playing on the same field as creation tales.

(December 7, 2014 at 5:05 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Evolution says nothing about how the Universe formed.

Oh Yes, overlooked that in my reply. I was too pissed off by the repeated ignorance concerning the term theory.
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#48
RE: Reliability of the creation account
(December 7, 2014 at 5:05 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Evolution says nothing about how the Universe formed.
So what does it say?

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#49
RE: Reliability of the creation account
No. Evolution kicks arse.

For sure, of course the creation account is just a fairy tail. But I was demonstrating that even if you take it as fact, you are relying on gods testimony, with no other evidence, that he created everything.
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#50
RE: Reliability of the creation account
(December 7, 2014 at 5:07 pm)robvalue Wrote: No.

For sure, of course the creation account is just a fairy tail. But I was demonstrating that even if you take it as fact, you are relying on gods testimony, with no other evidence, that he created everything.

Yes, is there anything wrong with that?

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