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RE: Christianity has gotten Lazy with the miracles:
December 20, 2014 at 3:23 pm
Sounds like he beat the slim chances. I don't know what that had to do with prayer.
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RE: Christianity has gotten Lazy with the miracles:
December 20, 2014 at 3:33 pm
(December 20, 2014 at 3:02 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: (December 20, 2014 at 2:53 pm)strawdawg Wrote: I once saw a 14 year old boy that had leukemia, he was in the hospital with double pneumonia. They said his chances were slim.
After prayer he not only recovered for the pneumonia but also recovered from the leukemia. He went on to marry and have a family. He owns his own business and he's a success. From what I've seen it's rare but it does happen.
How do we tell if the miracle is of god or satan or buddha, or quetzalcoatl, or zeus or jub?? Which gods' agenda is best served by this kid surviving ?
As for the prayer, if he prayed to the wrong god, and was healed by another, how can you tell ??
If I was that sick it wouldn't matter, I would just be thankful to be well.
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RE: Christianity has gotten Lazy with the miracles:
December 20, 2014 at 5:10 pm
Maybe the important factor was his being in a hospital?
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RE: Christianity has gotten Lazy with the miracles:
December 20, 2014 at 6:15 pm
(December 20, 2014 at 5:10 pm)Tonus Wrote: Maybe the important factor was his being in a hospital?
Most Christians I know would say "god worked through the doctors".
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RE: Christianity has gotten Lazy with the miracles:
December 20, 2014 at 6:20 pm
(December 20, 2014 at 3:33 pm)strawdawg Wrote: (December 20, 2014 at 3:02 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: How do we tell if the miracle is of god or satan or buddha, or quetzalcoatl, or zeus or jub?? Which gods' agenda is best served by this kid surviving ?
As for the prayer, if he prayed to the wrong god, and was healed by another, how can you tell ??
If I was that sick it wouldn't matter, I would just be thankful to be well.
That really doesn't answer their question.
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RE: Christianity has gotten Lazy with the miracles:
December 20, 2014 at 7:24 pm
(December 20, 2014 at 5:10 pm)Tonus Wrote: Maybe the important factor was his being in a hospital?
The doctors did tell the boy's mother, we're giving that boy some good medicine but it won't do this.
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RE: Christianity has gotten Lazy with the miracles:
December 20, 2014 at 7:33 pm
Neither side can "prove" that that is/isn't a "miracle".
What about the superfluous miracles like water to wine? Any modern ones that can be referenced?
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RE: Christianity has gotten Lazy with the miracles:
December 20, 2014 at 9:09 pm
If the definition of miracle involves "God did it", that's a claim impossible to prove with current science. The most you can conclude is an unexplained event.
