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Did Jesus Commit Suicide By Cop

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Did Jesus Commit Suicide By Cop
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#31
RE: Did Jesus Commit Suicide By Cop
January 28, 2015 at 2:41 pm
Um.

That was Joe Smith, I think.
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RE: Did Jesus Commit Suicide By Cop
January 28, 2015 at 2:41 pm
Does knowing that your death isn't permanent count as suicide?

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RE: Did Jesus Commit Suicide By Cop
January 28, 2015 at 2:46 pm
(January 28, 2015 at 1:18 pm)Lek Wrote:
(January 28, 2015 at 9:41 am)Nope Wrote: 21 But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die.

That's the big "if". No one has ever done that. Jesus lived the perfect life for us and we receive our salvation through him.

Oddly enough Jewish people, who the Old Testament was directed, did not believe in original sin and do not interpret the verse the way Christians do
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RE: Did Jesus Commit Suicide By Cop
January 28, 2015 at 2:51 pm
(January 28, 2015 at 2:41 pm)Beccs Wrote: Does knowing that your death isn't permanent count as suicide?

Neither permanent, nor applying at all to 67% of oneself.

(assuming the trinity is equally divvied up, and at most, it couldn't be much more than 51%/24 1/2%/24 1/2%)
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RE: Did Jesus Commit Suicide By Cop
January 28, 2015 at 2:57 pm
(January 28, 2015 at 2:46 pm)Nope Wrote:
(January 28, 2015 at 1:18 pm)Lek Wrote: That's the big "if". No one has ever done that. Jesus lived the perfect life for us and we receive our salvation through him.

Oddly enough Jewish people, who the Old Testament was directed, did not believe in original sin and do not interpret the verse the way Christians do


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RE: Did Jesus Commit Suicide By Cop
January 28, 2015 at 3:02 pm
Quote:To give a life to save another is not suicide. To give a life to potentially save a whole species is what Christ did on the cross.

Actually yes, it is suicide - It can be justified or not, in this case it's a sacrifice, but it's still suicide from a technical standpoint.
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RE: Did Jesus Commit Suicide By Cop
January 28, 2015 at 3:43 pm
(January 28, 2015 at 2:41 pm)Beccs Wrote: Does knowing that your death isn't permanent count as suicide?
It's like using a red sharpie to draw a line across your wrists in order to get sympathy from your friends.
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RE: Did Jesus Commit Suicide By Cop
January 28, 2015 at 6:49 pm
Short answer yes. God committed suicide by authority.
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RE: Did Jesus Commit Suicide By Cop
January 28, 2015 at 6:53 pm
And God already knew way beforehand everything that Jesus figured out. There was not one particle of surprise in god at anything of Jesus experience.

Kinda wonder why he bothered, and instead just issued an appropriate vision or revelation to a scribe somewhere.

Maybe that is too close to just making it all up ??
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RE: Did Jesus Commit Suicide By Cop
January 28, 2015 at 6:55 pm
Jesus is God. And God knows all. And he knew humans would sin. And he still created them. And then knocked up a virgin with himself, so that he/his son could die, to save the people he already knew would sin the first place.
And, speaking of reasons as to why I was so confused by religion classes...
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