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RE: Sorry
January 28, 2015 at 10:43 pm
Theists believe at least one god exists. Atheists don't. Another two terms to keep in mind are gnostic, and agnostic. Gnostic means you're certain about something, and an agnostic means you aren't. You can be a gnostic or agnostic theist. You can be a gnostic, or agnostic, atheist.
Another thing to note is that Everyone is an atheist. Some just make one or more exceptions. You probably don't believe that other gods exist, but at some point people really did worship the greek pantheon, and other gods. The difference between you and I is that I don't make an exception for Allah.
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RE: Sorry
January 28, 2015 at 10:46 pm
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Quote:Another thing to note is that Everyone is an atheist. Some just make one or more exceptions. You probably don't believe that other gods exist, but at some point people really did worship the greek pantheon, and other gods. The difference between you and I is that I don't make an exception for Allah.
Oh chad I really have a problem with this - I don't want to start a discussion because this is an intro thread, but... That's a terrible equation, atheists are not theists, the definition of theist is that you believe there is a god, therefore you are not atheist. IMO the "I don't make exceptions for gods" or "some of us take it one step further" are bad reasons to be an atheist. Also, my religious colleagues don't describe themselves as atheists to other religions, but as rival theists. Fundamentally, if you are a theist it's counter-productive to argue you're also an atheist to other religions, you are essentially a person that believes in one or more gods, therefore you are not an atheist
New member, basically atheism constitutes no belief in any gods, be it Allah, Yahweh, Buddha or whatever... Other atheists like me take it one step further and decide to assert certainty and knowledge that there are no gods. But we are not a religion since the only thing we have in common is our "no god" stance and even so we disagree on the precise definition of atheism
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RE: Sorry
January 28, 2015 at 10:50 pm
It made sense to me in my head, but I don't want to muddy the water too much.
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RE: Sorry
January 28, 2015 at 11:00 pm
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RE: Sorry
January 28, 2015 at 11:45 pm
Interesting that the Arabic translated into perfect, unbroken English.
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January 28, 2015 at 11:54 pm
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RE: Sorry
January 28, 2015 at 11:59 pm
(January 28, 2015 at 11:45 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:
Interesting that the Arabic translated into perfect, unbroken English.
Right? And I have heard Arabs speak broken English before---none of them speak like a Disney cartoon stereotype Asian.
"There remain four irreducible objections to religious faith: that it wholly misrepresents the origins of man and the cosmos, that because of this original error it manages to combine the maximum servility with the maximum of solipsism, that it is both the result and the cause of dangerous sexual repression, and that it is ultimately grounded on wish-thinking." ~Christopher Hitchens, god is not Great
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RE: Sorry
January 29, 2015 at 12:04 am
Me no understand. Me stupid doo doo head.
Seriously? People buy this?
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RE: Sorry
January 29, 2015 at 12:06 am
What would someone gain by acting like he didn't know english?
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RE: Sorry
January 29, 2015 at 12:11 am
A Poe.
"There remain four irreducible objections to religious faith: that it wholly misrepresents the origins of man and the cosmos, that because of this original error it manages to combine the maximum servility with the maximum of solipsism, that it is both the result and the cause of dangerous sexual repression, and that it is ultimately grounded on wish-thinking." ~Christopher Hitchens, god is not Great
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