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Damned Racists
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 (February 20, 2015 at 11:52 am)tantric Wrote:(February 17, 2015 at 2:58 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: How about racism combined with a staggering ignorance of anything cultural or religious? Probably not for people in the west. If people understood why the Nazis chose the swastika, it would help considerably. But most people seem blissfully unaware that Hitler was superstitious and thought a good luck symbol would help him. His superstitious beliefs also led him into military blunders, as he sometimes paid more attention to his astrologers than to his generals. Of course, given his moronic views on race, it should be no surprise that he believed a whole lot of nonsense. I think that more attention should be paid to how stupid his ideas were, rather than just saying that his ideas on race are evil. In fact, if one wishes to understand why his ideas are evil, one needs to understand how groundless and stupid they are. If the beliefs had been reasonable, then they would not have been evil. My advice is to never use a swastika in the west for any reason, unless you very clearly give the meaning and context, so that the viewers will understand it. Even then, you are going to get people who will just see the swastika and react to it, without paying attention to anything else, so you had better be prepared for that. "A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence." — David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.
I'm pretty sure racism is a world-wide phenomenon.
(February 20, 2015 at 3:32 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: I'm pretty sure racism is a world-wide phenomenon. Is this a response to my post? My comment about the west was about the meaning of a particular symbol there, and how it differs from the meaning of that same symbol in the east. The swastika is an ancient symbol that has been used in China and India and other eastern countries, and, generally, signifies some form of good luck. Hitler and the Nazis borrowed the symbol from that earlier source, most likely due to Hitler's personal superstitious beliefs, thinking that a good luck charm would bring him good luck. Presently, most people in the west seem completely unaware of the origin of the symbol, or its original meaning, and simply associate it with Nazis. None of this has anything to do with whether racism is a world-wide problem or not. It has to do with how people in different cultures react to a particular symbol, the swastika, and why they react differently. People in China and India and other countries near them typically have a better understanding of the original significance of the swastika, and typically associate it with that, and not with Nazis. "A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence." — David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.
Pyrrho, isn't the swastika you're talking about aligned so all the lines are vertical or horizontal? The Nazi swastika is rotated 45 degrees so all the lines are at an angle.
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.
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February 20, 2015 at 4:35 pm
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(February 20, 2015 at 3:53 pm)AFTT47 Wrote: Pyrrho, isn't the swastika you're talking about aligned so all the lines are vertical or horizontal? The Nazi swastika is rotated 45 degrees so all the lines are at an angle. No, not necessarily. The swastika has been variously oriented for a very long time in the east. (If you google "Woodblock edition of the Wonderful Dharma Lotus Flower Sutra" you can find a swastika that is oriented precisely as the most common form of the Nazi swastika, that has nothing whatever to do with Nazis. You will need to scroll down the page to see the picture of the text of that name.) Also, not all Nazi swastikas have the rotation that you mention. (See, for example, the wikipedia pages on "Nazi symbolism" and "11th SS Volunteer Panzergrenadier Division Nordland".) So, that does not distinguish between them. You can see some examples at the wikipedia page for "swastika," as well as from links from that page. Since I have not been here 30 days yet, I am not supposed to give you any links, so you will be on your own for finding the particulars. "A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence." — David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.
Pyhrro, it was not a response to you. If I am responding to you, I will quote you. Sorry for any confusion.
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February 20, 2015 at 6:21 pm
(This post was last modified: February 20, 2015 at 6:27 pm by tantric.)
Okay - see, I wanted to explore the artistic concept of the 'fourth wall' - making your art interact with the audience. So I painted a mural showing Ganesh (elephant headed god) capturing a storm demon and empowering the electrical socket on the wall, which I thought was nifty. He had four hands, one for the demon, one for the socket, one for his woo tools and the last for....the Hindu symbol of crossed lightning bolts, which happens to be a right facing swastika....and totally ruined by mural because nobody could see anything but that. None of my art* was well received - my favorite piece is HummingbirdandBat, from a Mayan tomb, meant to show altruism (hummingbirds are self-sacrifice, vampire bats are one of the few altruistic animal species). When an art dealer saw it, he loved it - it showed the 'dynamic tension between the african and asian communities'. I laughed beer through my nose.
* these were all wall spanning things largely inspired as much by 2CI as any real artistic ability, it was just for fun. Still, I highly recommend painting on your walls - it's totally different from hanging prints.
My book, a setting for fantasy role playing games based on Bantu mythology: Ubantu
Another one.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/02/penn-...-surfaces/ Quote:Penn. Supreme Court candidate withdraws nomination after racist Christmas card he sent surfaces Quote:The Republican judge initially denied having sent the email, saying that a message included in it — “Touching and heartwarming. Merry Christmas to ALL! JK” — is something “I can’t imagine I would type.” Yeah...."I'm a racist shithead but I didn't mean to be!" Go fuck yourself. 
With all possible delicacy, is it an actual Christmas card sent by the people in the picture ?
If so, I am surprised to not be related to them. 
The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it.
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