Raging Rudy Giuliani Destroys Obama's Policies on Islam

[Thumpalumpacus]

"President Obama didn't live through September 11 -- I did."
— Rudy Giuliani

If President Obama didn't live through September 11, then he must be truly precocious to have won a presidential election at the age of less than 8.

Or he really is the Second Coming.

[Jacob(smooth)]

That's old in ant years.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

You will never see any big names come out with the full truth about the Impostor.
This includes Fox news and so called Leaders, either conservative or Christian.

For the media, there is a wall they will not cross, mostly because they share the same bed with him.
For others, it might be that they are being kept from full knowledge so they do not become missing in the night or reported suicides
(like a slew of bankers over the last couple of years).
BHO is a far greater existential threat than the Islam he endorses and is part of.
He is the Antichrist of the bible, the Mahdi of the Muslims.
When he becomes fully possessed by Satan-
you will know who he is.

Up your meds.

Boru

[Thumpalumpacus]

[abaris]

BHO is a far greater existential threat than the Islam he endorses and is part of.

I don't get it, prof.

By all accounts your quite an old fart. So you lived to see Nixon in action, who ran a criminal racket out of the White House apart from war crimes committed at his and Kissinger's orders. Yet Obama is the antichrist. And of course he's the Mahdi of the muslims.

Do I sense a tinsy bit of racism there? Or is even that too far a stretch on planet delusional?

[Faith No More]

Well, Nixon was a conservative Republican. Surely the anti-christ will be a filthy liberal Democrat.

I'm sure prof. was singing this same song and dance with Clinton, and Carter, and so on....

[KevinM1]

Giuliani is so overrated. He did his job during September 11th. That's it. I'm sure many big city mayors would be as competent. Living a couple hours from Boston, I'm sure that Menino would have been at least as capable. Most mayors aren't Ray Nagin dumb.

I just hate that Giuliani thinks that doing what his job required of him merits special consideration or praise, especially 14 years after the fact. He doesn't know more about Muslims because he was on the receiving end of their attacks. It doesn't give him any special insight into the genesis of terrorism. If he has any special knowledge, it would be in coordinating response teams on the ground, not in Middle Eastern politics, religion, or our foreign policy. And it's ridiculous that his brand of fascism is defended by many because "he was there, man." No, fuck that, fuck him, and fuck you.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Well, Nixon was a conservative Republican. Surely the anti-christ will be a fikthy liberal Democrat.

I'm sure prof. was singing this same song and dance with Clinton, and Carter, and so on....

I cuts both ways. I've had conversations with people (online, not in person, luckily) who in all seriousness believed that Ronald Wilson Reagan was the Beast of Revelation because each of his names contained six letters.

Boru

[Mudhammam]

Forget trying to find moderate Muslims. It's futile.

Will your head emerge from your gaping asshole if I start providing names of popular moderate Muslims?

[mralstoner]

... moderate Muslims do indeed exist, and they do indeed take actions to support their stances. You plugged your ears and shouted.

Of course there are moderate Muslims, the prophet Mohammed even said so:

Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."

The problem is that a moderate Islam is not a viable long-term movement because it has NO CREDIBLE INTELLECTUAL BASE.

As Sam Harris said: Osama bin Laden is giving a truly straightforward version of Islam, and you really have to be an acrobat to figure out how he is distorting the faith.

Harris is even writing a book with a moderate Muslim, yet he adds the caveat that he is highly skeptical of any lasting reform of Islam.

Just read the life of Mohammed and then ask yourself: how in the hell are moderate Muslims going to moderate 13 years of head-chopping and sex slavery?

Moderate Islam is not a viable movement.

Perhaps in less enlightened times, it might have been possible to reform Islam, when you could burn all the books you didn't like and create a new interpretation, a new Mohammed i.e. rewrite history. But today, we have all the gruesome details of Mohammed's life, so much that there can be no credible intellectual base for moderate Islam.

And that's why it's futile to support moderate Muslim movements. Only mass apostasy might have a hope.