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March 8, 2015 at 6:56 pm
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Yeah, necro posting is when you post in a thread that hasn't been posted in for over a month.
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March 8, 2015 at 7:17 pm
(March 8, 2015 at 6:01 pm)tfree Wrote: Look at how the Middle Eastern civilisation rose after Mohammed: it went from being an area of warring tribes to being the most advanced civilisation in the world. And modern Western civilisation is built on the foundation of Christian teachings.
First, it is obvious you know next to nothing about history. The Middle East only united under Saladin's sword and under the common cause of driving the christian invaders out. Before that they were still warring tribes and nations. And after the recapture of Jerusalem in 1187 and Saladin's death, they broke apart again just as quickly.
The fact that Mohammed united them under the same religion doesn't hide the fact that he and his religion weren't nation builders.
And let me put it friendly. If modern Western civilisation was really built on christianity, we still wouldn't have the number zero to calculate with. We still would rely on Galen's writings when it comes to medicine, since the church forbade autopsies and we would still hunt witches and have the geocentric model. It's the ones going against christian doctrine that moved the Western world forward. Foremost the brilliant minds of the Age of Enlightenment, who replaced superstition with reason.
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March 8, 2015 at 7:36 pm
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How can you not have the number zero? What did they write on the list to indicate they had nothing left in stock?
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March 8, 2015 at 7:44 pm
(March 8, 2015 at 7:36 pm)Chad32 Wrote: How can you not have the number zero? What did they write on the list to indicate they had nothing left in stock?
From the Smithsonian
Quote: We use them with such ease that we take them for granted. Surprisingly, our number system took hold in the West only in the 13th century, after the Italian mathematician Leonardo of Pisa—better known as Fibonacci—introduced the numerals to Europeans. He’d learned them from Arab traders, who presumably adopted them during travels to the Indian subcontinent.
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/or...92/?no-ist
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March 8, 2015 at 7:44 pm
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(March 8, 2015 at 7:36 pm)Chad32 Wrote: How can you not have the number zero? What did they write on the list to indicate they had nothing left in stock?
Brahmagupta, around 650 AD, was the first to formalize arithmetic operations using zero
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March 8, 2015 at 7:48 pm
(March 8, 2015 at 7:44 pm)dyresand Wrote: Zero was invented independently by the Babylonians, Mayans and Indians (although some researchers say the Indian number system was influenced by the Babylonians).
christianity didn't and more than likely would have create 0 as a number at all.
Read the article I provided. You're wrong on all accounts.
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March 8, 2015 at 7:52 pm
(March 8, 2015 at 7:48 pm)abaris Wrote: (March 8, 2015 at 7:44 pm)dyresand Wrote: Zero was invented independently by the Babylonians, Mayans and Indians (although some researchers say the Indian number system was influenced by the Babylonians).
christianity didn't and more than likely would have create 0 as a number at all.
Read the article I provided. You're wrong on all accounts.
Alright ill fix what i wrote.
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March 8, 2015 at 8:15 pm
(March 8, 2015 at 7:36 pm)Chad32 Wrote: How can you not have the number zero? What did they write on the list to indicate they had nothing left in stock? Instead they just wrote "Fuck."
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RE: Prove god exists.
March 9, 2015 at 9:46 pm
(March 8, 2015 at 6:01 pm)tfree Wrote: Well, that depends on the reason for which you don't believe. In many cases I would expect that you have found religious people to be lacking in logic, and if this is the case then surely it is as much their fault for dissuading you as it is yours for not believing. God's justice will surely take that into account. After we die I think things must however be harder for those who don't believe in God than for those that do, because it will be harder for them to adapt to the next life in which spirituality is so profoundly important. But there is nothing to say that they won't come to terms with those realities and then advance far beyond those who had believed in God.
Lacking in logic...hmmm... you mean like every one of your posts?
Well then, I must thank you (and every other theist I've ever talked to) for presenting such a poor case for the existence of your god, that he will take that into consideration.
Oh, one more thing.
How the f'ck do you know any of this crap you are spewing?
I count at least 7 completely unsupported assertions in your above quoted post. I can list them if you want.
What is your source for them? How do you know they are true? Why should I believe them?
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: Prove god exists.
March 10, 2015 at 7:12 am
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We need to hold some kind of class on here to teach people the difference between assertions and facts.
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