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dyresand · April 25, 2015 at 5:07 pm

(April 25, 2015 at 5:05 pm)I_am_not_mafia Wrote:
(April 25, 2015 at 5:01 pm)dyresand Wrote: Java applet is now dead rejoice because #Net is superior

Except that #Net only runs on Windows.

I try to avoid Windows where possible.

I dual boot i like Linux, Unix, and also my own custom build of linux.
Mac is fine but as a OS it is okay.

I_am_not_mafia · April 25, 2015 at 5:15 pm

I mostly have dual boot windows and Linux. Windows for games or any applications specific to Windows (I don't ever bother with Wine or virtual machines).

I use Linux for work though and general browsing. I ported my C++ code to Windows using the Borland compiler in the past once and it required an order of magnitude more memory. Not to mention that the operating system just doesn't have the same functionality for having stuff running 24/7 for weeks on end (e.g. Gnu screen, top etc)

dyresand · April 25, 2015 at 5:27 pm

Java applet isn't completely dead its still supported by firefox. As far as Google and Microsoft go it was good and bad.
Bad for me because i have tutoring who use a application that runs on java applet its a good thing i had firefox installed.
I brought it up with the tutors the software you guys are using is good but it should be running on flash or even something else
because when java updates come around they update it to the latest java version as well so i end up wasting a minute or two trying
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I_am_not_mafia · April 25, 2015 at 5:34 pm

2008 - 2011 I had a job which required me to deploy a user interface. I was programming the back-end with Java so I chose to write the UI using Spring. I then had to use Java Web Start which was a right pain in the arse to deploy. Clients (troubled school kids) needed to install the Java run-time environment as well. One really annoying problem was that it still didn't support 64 bit. In hindsight I should have created a web-portal using Spring so people could just use their web browsers rather than download an applet.

I use Java all the time but I don't actually like it that much.

**Jackalope** · (This post was last modified: April 25, 2015 at 6:24 pm by Jackalope.)

(April 25, 2015 at 5:34 pm)I_am_not_mafia Wrote: 2008 - 2011 I had a job which required me to deploy a user interface. I was programming the back-end with Java so I chose to write the UI using Spring. I then had to use Java Web Start which was a right pain in the arse to deploy. Clients (troubled school kids) needed to install the Java run-time environment as well. One really annoying problem was that it still didn't support 64 bit. In hindsight I should have created a web-portal using Spring so people could just use their web browsers rather than download an applet.

I use Java all the time but I don't actually like it that much.

Spring and JSP sucks way way less than applets.

I prefer C for the kind of work I do, but the man said we're deprecating all the C stuff for Java, which made business sense. As the man is responsible for the paycheck that supports the lifestyle I've come to appreciate, the man gets what he wants.

I'm kind of a whore that way.

bennyboy · (This post was last modified: April 25, 2015 at 8:49 pm by bennyboy.)

Since Android is programmed in Java, and Google and Android are linked at the hip, I can guarantee that Java isn't being discontinued.

As for the Java applets. . . meh. I don't need to play bad phone games on my super-powerful PC anyway.

For web stuff, I think no Java applets means we're soon going to see full-on implementations of html5, which will replace both Java applets and the long-dead Flash quite handily in time.

AFTT47 · April 26, 2015 at 9:47 am

(April 25, 2015 at 8:45 pm)bennyboy Wrote: For web stuff, I think no Java applets means we're soon going to see full-on implementations of html5, which will replace both Java applets and the long-dead Flash quite handily in time.

Long-dead Flash? I wish! I think maybe you mean to say it SHOULD have been long dead. It's still in common use, unfortunately. It has to be the most unreliable web technology and the biggest pain in the ass ever.

bennyboy · (This post was last modified: April 26, 2015 at 4:40 pm by bennyboy.)

(April 26, 2015 at 9:47 am)AFTT47 Wrote:
(April 25, 2015 at 8:45 pm)bennyboy Wrote: For web stuff, I think no Java applets means we're soon going to see full-on implementations of html5, which will replace both Java applets and the long-dead Flash quite handily in time.

Long-dead Flash? I wish! I think maybe you mean to say it SHOULD have been long dead. It's still in common use, unfortunately. It has to be the most unreliable web technology and the biggest pain in the ass ever.

Hmmmm. Maybe I'm just projecting. Smile

The truth is I instantly dropped Flash when I found out Android dropped support for it. I'm in Korea, which is heavy on cell phone use, and I can't spend time coding on something that people won't be able to use.

**Jackalope** · April 26, 2015 at 4:49 pm

Flash is dying on the vine. Adobe has killed future support for the product, and it's wholly redundant at this point. It deserves to die.

AFTT47 · April 26, 2015 at 4:57 pm

I was in the ROK (Kunsan) in 1989. I imagine there are some changes in most of the country but I bet Seoul looks the same.

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