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RE: Epicurus riddle.
April 12, 2010 at 10:33 pm
(April 12, 2010 at 9:47 pm)Eilonnwy Wrote: (April 12, 2010 at 8:48 pm)Disinter Wrote: I have a question...Does anyone actually read those bible verses? Personally they are touching me on a very spiritual level.
You supposed to tell an adult if you get touched in inappropriate places.
But what if the adult you tell touches you there too? 
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RE: Epicurus riddle.
April 12, 2010 at 11:31 pm
(April 12, 2010 at 10:33 pm)Saerules Wrote: (April 12, 2010 at 9:47 pm)Eilonnwy Wrote: (April 12, 2010 at 8:48 pm)Disinter Wrote: I have a question...Does anyone actually read those bible verses? Personally they are touching me on a very spiritual level.
You supposed to tell an adult if you get touched in inappropriate places.
But what if the adult you tell touches you there too?
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RE: Epicurus riddle.
April 12, 2010 at 11:43 pm
kudos. that was genius....
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RE: Epicurus riddle.
April 13, 2010 at 10:28 am
(This post was last modified: April 13, 2010 at 10:36 am by Edwardo Piet.)
@ the OP
Opinions on Epicurus' riddle? FUCKING AWESOME. One of my favourite pieces of writing of all time.
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(April 11, 2010 at 10:15 pm)The Piper Wrote: God enables us to have free will, meaning that some will do evil and some won't. It's our choice, God is allowing us to determine our fate and he is very patient. Evil will be dealt with in his time.
If God is truly both omnipotent and omnibenevolent then he would give us the freedom to do as we wish ('free will') and yet he would have created it so that we were intrinsically good and so never would want to 'Do Evil'. We'd be free... we just wouldn't want to 'do Evil'.
Furthermore, if God was truly both omnipotent and omnibenevolent, then he would never have created any 'natural evil' in the sense of environmental disasters and all the suffering that goes on in the wild with other organisms as well as ourselves.
Furthermore,
Where is your evidence for 'Free Will'? It is obvious that 'Will' exists, our'selves' = our 'Will's respectively. But I am yet to know of anyone who can provide me of any evidence whatsoever of the existence of specifically ' free will.' How is it free? If we could control our Wills, if we could control our 'selves', then that would be our 'will'/'self' control its self. So our self would have to have a self.... and so on, infinite regress. How can the Will possibly be free, how can 'we' have control over our 'selves', if 'we' are[/i[ our 'self'. The Will is necessarily the very part of us that DOES the controlling, so how on earth can [i]it be free? Please do provide evidence.
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RE: Epicurus riddle.
February 25, 2013 at 3:31 am
(April 11, 2010 at 10:15 pm)The Piper Wrote: “Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
God is willing and able.
Is he able, but not willing?
Yes, no.
Is he both able and willing?
Yes.
Then whence cometh evil?
Free will
Is he neither able nor willing?
No.
Then why call him God?”
Redundant question.
Opinions on this riddle?
God enables us to have free will, meaning that some will do evil and some won't. It's our choice, God is allowing us to determine our fate and he is very patient. Evil will be dealt with in his time.
Yeah, and he punishes those who go down the wrong road with ETERNAL TORTURE. As in, burning forever, and who knows what else. And considering this, how do you know that God is willing and able?
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RE: Epicurus riddle.
February 25, 2013 at 3:56 am
GalaxyCat, the Piper hasn't been on since 12th April 2010, so don't expect the conversation to continue. Also, please refrain from necroposting.
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RE: Epicurus riddle.
February 25, 2013 at 6:56 am
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necroposting much Blerg!
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RE: Epicurus riddle.
February 25, 2013 at 12:11 pm
If you believe that he has a "plan", you my friend, are a true douchebag.
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RE: Epicurus riddle.
July 19, 2014 at 10:12 pm
(April 11, 2010 at 12:03 pm)Paul the Human Wrote: My opinion is that Epicurus has clearly shown that the Biblical God cannot be all of the things that the Bible claims he is. The natural conclusion is that, therefore, God does not exist. Epicurus' Riddle does not actually make that claim, however.
Christians have told me that the riddle shows that God cannot be comprehended by us mere mortals. Either way, I have always been a fan of Epicurus' Riddle.
An intercessory benevolent god is clearly NOT the god of the bible, it is a god modern Christians have imagined.
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RE: Epicurus riddle.
July 19, 2014 at 10:31 pm
(April 11, 2010 at 11:44 am)Archbow Wrote: “Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?”
Opinions on this riddle?
Not really a riddle, more like a statement that solves the god hypothesis trough basic deduction...
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