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RE: LISTEN, CHRISTIANS!
July 12, 2015 at 6:48 pm
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(July 12, 2015 at 2:25 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: (July 12, 2015 at 11:26 am)Rhondazvous Wrote: It's hard for them to accept what we say because all our words are filtered through thoughts of "What will people think of me if I acknowledge that what these atheist say makes sense?" "What will happen to my ministry?" "I'll never get my wife to accept this. She's in Christian ministry for the money and doesn't care if it's true or not so I'd better reject what the atheists say to save my marriage." "I've put too much mouth into Christianity. I can't back out now."
How can they hear us, much less think about what we're saying with all this cacophony going on in the background?
Very few Catholic priests have wives who are "in Christian ministry for the money." ![[Image: rotfl.gif]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=forums.catholic.com%2Fimages%2Fsmilies%2Fani%2Frotfl.gif)
And how much do you think the average Catholic priest is paid annually? Did anybody read me post a word about Catholic priest? Nor was the post I was responding to talking about Catholic priests. Anyway, now that gay marriage is legal, they won't need wives, they can stick to boys.
You say one more word to me about Catholic priests, and I will say something about them and their mamas that will leave you in the confessional for a week.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
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RE: LISTEN, CHRISTIANS!
July 12, 2015 at 6:51 pm
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(July 12, 2015 at 6:48 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote: (July 12, 2015 at 2:25 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: Very few Catholic priests have wives who are "in Christian ministry for the money."
And how much do you think the average Catholic priest is paid annually? Did anybody read me post a word about Catholic priest? Nor was the post I was responding to talking about Catholic priests. Anyway, now that gay marriage is legal, they won't need wives, they can stick to boys.
You say one more word to me about Catholic priest and I will say something about them and their mamas that will leave you in the confessional for a week.
Catholic priests stand in persona Christi. ![[Image: highprayer.gif]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=forums.catholic.com%2Fimages%2Fsmilies%2Fprayer%2Fhighprayer.gif)
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RE: LISTEN, CHRISTIANS!
July 12, 2015 at 7:08 pm
(July 12, 2015 at 2:17 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: I get this completely. Some of you have been hurt or disappointed by Christians, and you're angry at them - not at God (who, after all, does not exist).
So I guess my next question is, if you get it, why default to "angry at god" at all? You did it with me, you've done it with some others here... why make that leap based solely on the presence of anger when you can't have a clear idea of its source?
Quote:Still, is it purely coincidental that for some, the loss of faith in God has coincided with this hurt/disappointment? Or would you say that they were totally unrelated?
I think it varies from person to person. I'm not saying that people never deconvert for emotional or bad reasons, I'm just pointing out that it's a fairly common christian refrain to assert that the reasons individual atheists believe as they do are those emotional or bad reasons, when they don't have a good justification for doing so.
Quote:Finally, I also get that in some cases, folks have REALLY cried out to God in a time of real need, and they got no answer. First, they got mad, then they concluded that "silence = non-existence". And now they are angry at ANYONE AND EVERYONE who supports the God who let them down because they feel like they've been lied to all those years.
Am I missing anything?
Again, I don't doubt there are people deconverting for bad reasons. I just don't think the people here are in that group, nor that the existence of that group is at all informing your accusations; you certainly didn't hesitate to accuse me of being angry with god, and I never had anything to deconvert from in the first place.
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RE: LISTEN, CHRISTIANS!
July 12, 2015 at 7:15 pm
(July 12, 2015 at 7:08 pm)Esquilax Wrote: (July 12, 2015 at 2:17 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: I get this completely. Some of you have been hurt or disappointed by Christians, and you're angry at them - not at God (who, after all, does not exist).
So I guess my next question is, if you get it, why default to "angry at god" at all? You did it with me, you've done it with some others here... why make that leap based solely on the presence of anger when you can't have a clear idea of its source?
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Did you even read posts #1 & 2 AT ALL?
C'mon, dude...you're usually a little sharper than this. Tough weekend?
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RE: LISTEN, CHRISTIANS!
July 12, 2015 at 7:17 pm
(July 11, 2015 at 3:33 pm)KUSA Wrote: I'm mad at everything including unicorns, leprechauns, fairies, etc.
Yup. I ALWAYS carry a fly swat with me in case I run into any bloody fairies...
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RE: LISTEN, CHRISTIANS!
July 12, 2015 at 7:20 pm
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(July 12, 2015 at 7:17 pm)Beccs Wrote: (July 11, 2015 at 3:33 pm)KUSA Wrote: I'm mad at everything including unicorns, leprechauns, fairies, etc.
Yup. I ALWAYS carry a fly swat with me in case I run into any bloody fairies...
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RE: LISTEN, CHRISTIANS!
July 12, 2015 at 7:37 pm
(July 12, 2015 at 6:51 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: (July 12, 2015 at 6:48 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote: Did anybody read me post a word about Catholic priest? Nor was the post I was responding to talking about Catholic priests. Anyway, now that gay marriage is legal, they won't need wives, they can stick to boys.
You say one more word to me about Catholic priest and I will say something about them and their mamas that will leave you in the confessional for a week.
Catholic priests stand in persona Christi. Didn't I warn him?
Jesus loves the little children. Especially the little boys. So if Catholic priests stand in person of Christ then it is Christ fucking those little boys. That's Jesus who said make the little children suffer when they come unto me. Just like his father in Heaven gave fathers on Earth instructions on how to sell their daughters into sexual slavery. Yes they all work for the same company.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
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RE: LISTEN, CHRISTIANS!
July 12, 2015 at 8:01 pm
(July 12, 2015 at 7:37 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote: (July 12, 2015 at 6:51 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: Catholic priests stand in persona Christi. Didn't I warn him?
Jesus loves the little children. Especially the little boys. So if Catholic priests stand in person of Christ then it is Christ fucking those little boys. That's Jesus who said make the little children suffer when they come unto me. Just like his father in Heaven gave fathers on Earth instructions on how to sell their daughters into sexual slavery. Yes they all work for the same company.
Well, you know how those bible thumping folk love them some rape.
Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
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RE: LISTEN, CHRISTIANS!
July 12, 2015 at 8:02 pm
(July 12, 2015 at 7:15 pm)Randy Carson Wrote:
Did you even read posts #1 & 2 AT ALL?
Yes, I get it: some, not all. My question is more about how you come to that conclusion in the first place; you've used that accusation against me and others, it's not like that stops being a thing. I feel like it's a legitimate question to ask, given that.
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RE: LISTEN, CHRISTIANS!
July 12, 2015 at 8:35 pm
(July 12, 2015 at 6:51 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: (July 12, 2015 at 6:48 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote: Did anybody read me post a word about Catholic priest? Nor was the post I was responding to talking about Catholic priests. Anyway, now that gay marriage is legal, they won't need wives, they can stick to boys.
You say one more word to me about Catholic priest and I will say something about them and their mamas that will leave you in the confessional for a week.
Catholic priests stand in persona Christi.
Well, I guess that make jeebus a teen buggering asshole then.
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