Honest Question to Atheists - Best Argument?

[popsthebuilder]

Cato,
Negative emotions or the lack of emotion in general can be relatd to lack of belief. Never said anything different. Nice try though.

[robvalue]

I'll tell you this for free:

Apologetics consists of misinformation, logical fallacies and emotional manipulation. I'm not saying these are intended, but that is what it is made of.

Bring me any apologetics and I'll point out where (at least) one of these applies.

[popsthebuilder]

Has there ever been a Christian argument, or something a Christian said, that made you, for even a split second, question whether your current atheistic stance is right?

Even if the argument turned out to be completely fabricated or disprovable, did it at the very least draw you closer to believing the Bible is God's Word and all that such a belief entails?

If not, has there ever been an argument that you didn't know how to answer, or that surprised you  against your expectations?

Not looking for "All Christian arguments are idiotic" replies. This is an honest question.

If Christianity were true, if the Old and New Testaments accurately described god, the cosmos would be a horrible place. Billions of galaxies with a (likely) uncountable number of sentient civilizations, all created to be fodder for god's focus on one single world, Earth, and one single species, humans. It would be a cosmos of violence and constant threat. On Earth there would be endless wars and conflicts where logic and compassion where in short supply. Rulers would be ruthless, power hungry, and often mad as hatters. Jails would be filled with the mentally ill and those guilty of petty crimes, while the true mass murderers and thieves would live in mansions, ride around in private jets, and wear their fidelity to the god who had rewarded them for their faithful service on their sleeves for all to see. Judgments for just being a human being trying to find one's way in the world would be harsh, supported by xenophobic societies that saw mortal danger in anyone who was just slightly “different.”


Driven nearly mad by god's chosen the world would be a terrible place of exploitation, environmental degradation, abuses of all kinds, with hope fading daily as the “final judgment” approached.


Oh shit … fuck me...

Not due to the messengers. Only due to the manipulative evil that is inherent in all men who loose their way and many how actually are on the path. Evil is creeping and can squirm its way into anything without conscious, mortally righteously actions and thoughts through all things. We are all human and we all have the capacity for evil. The reality is that there is a fight for infinite potential. Good fights in an upright obvious fashion whereas evil fights in the dark, hidden in its very nature.

[popsthebuilder]

I'll tell you this for free:

Apologetics consists of misinformation, logical fallacies and emotional manipulation. I'm not saying these are intended, but that is what it is made of.

Bring me any apologetics and I'll point out where (at least) one of these applies.

Here I am.

[abaris]

Not due to the messengers. Only due to the manipulative evil that is inherent in all men who loose their way and many how actually are on the path. Evil is creeping and can squirm its way into anything without conscious, mortally righteously actions and thoughts through all things. We are all human and we all have the capacity for evil. The reality is that there is a fight for infinite potential. Good fights in an upright obvious fashion whereas evil fights in the dark, hidden in its very nature.

As to the OP: Quod erat demonstrandum, speaking of unconvincing arguments.

[The Grand Nudger]

Lol, Pops.....

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...lol, 


-I disagree. Just hoping to give you some insight into the mind of an atheist - it might help you to better communicate whatever it is you're here to communicate. You're going to need to work on your delivery.

[popsthebuilder]

Lol, Pops.....

fapfapfapfapfapfap....gaaaaaaaaawd.  

...lol, 


-I disagree. Just hoping to give you some insight into the mind of an atheist - it might help you to better communicate whatever it is you're here to communicate. You're going to need to work on your delivery.

Agreed

[robvalue]

I'll tell you this for free:

Apologetics consists of misinformation, logical fallacies and emotional manipulation. I'm not saying these are intended, but that is what it is made of.

Bring me any apologetics and I'll point out where (at least) one of these applies.

Here I am.

Hello.

If you want me to dissect any particular apologetics of yours, I'd be happy to.

[Fidel_Castronaut]

Some advice, if I may. When you are dead, you don't know that you are dead. It is difficult only for the others.

It's the same when you are stupid.

When you are dead through disbelief your existence is over. You will not know it because there will be no you to contemplate it. Silly. I think stupidity is obvious to some who exhibit it, perhaps not all. Ignorance is apparent upon truthfully introspect.

I don't think you got it.

Cato,
Negative emotions or the lack of emotion in general can be relatd to lack of belief. Never said anything different. Nice try though.

Care to give us some evidence of that? Upon what scientific basis do you hold the above to be true? In what way does lack of belief equate to lack of emotion? Or is this another baseless assertion you've been taught to regurgitate when speaking with the evil masses of satan on an online discussion forum?

[Cato]

Cato,
Negative emotions or the lack of emotion in general can be relatd to lack of belief. Never said anything different. Nice try though.

Pops,
The following statements are yours:

What I am trying to say is that we can tell what us real to us based on our bodies emotional reaction to certain thought.

Firstly you will never find truth when clouded by anger, fear, hatred, or some misplaced peer acceptance.

In one you are telling me that emotions tell us what's real, in the second you are telling me that I can't find truth because I'm clouded by certain emotions. Trying to resolve the contradiction by suggesting that only negative emotions block the path to the truth/knowledge of reality is still preposterous. If I found myself in water staring into the eyes of a hungry great white shark, I will be afraid. I think my fear is an appropriate response to what's real.