Atheism the unscientific belief (part one, two, and three)

[SofaKingHigh]

Could you please answer my post regarding the world's biggest study into NDE's? 

Quite wonderfully, it actually points to something you have been arguing against, that consciousness comes from the brain....... patients being "aware" for up to 3 minutes after being pronounced clinically dead.  You know which part of the body was the only part still active in every single case?
Go on, I'll let you guess.

Sure, sure i guess.
In the meantime can you show me the study you are talking about?  

Knock yourself out.........then have a read:

http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index...ce-of-nde/

http://mysteriousuniverse.org/2014/10/aw...ter-death/

Given that you have such a hard-on for NDE's, it is surprising that you know nothing about the worlds largest study into them.

Actually, it isn't surprising at all, that was a lie.

[Red_Wind]

You keep going on about physical and none physical science.

The question is, what impact does this "none physical being" have on the physical world.If it does not have an effect on the physical world then how do we know it is real if we can not test it and why should we care?

Again, it's the usual "absence of evidence".

[Little Rik]

You said.....disrespectful........which relate to not following the moral code in use in human relationship.
So yes you are an hypocrite because you brake this code by swearing direct to me for no reason and at the same time you pretend to teach morality.  

Just because I used the word "disrespectful," doesn't mean I was talking about the moral ramifications of all human interactions, fuck-stick. I was talking about forum rules

If you don't know what certain words means stop using them.
As simple as that.  

which expressly forbid preaching at us....

Did i preach?
You show me one single time that i proposed to anyone here my belief (ananda marga).
The only time i point out what AM teach is when somebody ask me about my belief.
Usually is Jörmungandr that always try to dig in that topic.
So no, your accusation is crap.

failing to support your assertions

Wrong again beanie.
I am not the one who say.......THE CONSCIOUSNESS IS A PRODUCT OF THE BRAIN......and........THE CONSCIOUSNESS THAT WE GOT COME THANKS TO PREVIOUS GENERATION.....and......WE ONLY GOT OUR PHYSICAL SENSES......and......THE UNIVERSE STARTED WITH THE BIG BANG..........and and and
and more unsupported beliefs.  

and then treating us as if we're stupid just because we don't believe your unsupported bullshit.

Sometime i came across someone who propose something interesting so no not all of you are stupid
otherwise i wouldn't be here to post.
The thing that i believe is stupid is to see people that think that physical science can answer question that are not physical.  

[SofaKingHigh]

Just because I used the word "disrespectful," doesn't mean I was talking about the moral ramifications of all human interactions, fuck-stick. I was talking about forum rules

If you don't know what certain words means stop using them.
As simple as that.  

which expressly forbid preaching at us....

Did i preach?
You show me one single time that i proposed to anyone here my belief (ananda marga).
The only time i point out what AM teach is when somebody ask me about my belief.
Usually is Jörmungandr that always try to dig in that topic.
So no, your accusation is crap.

failing to support your assertions

Wrong again beanie.
I am not the one who say.......THE CONSCIOUSNESS IS A PRODUCT OF THE BRAIN......and........THE CONSCIOUSNESS THAT WE GOT COME THANKS TO PREVIOUS GENERATION.....and......WE ONLY GOT OUR PHYSICAL SENSES......and......THE UNIVERSE STARTED WITH THE BIG BANG..........and and and
and more unsupported beliefs.  

and then treating us as if we're stupid just because we don't believe your unsupported bullshit.

Sometime i came across someone who propose something interesting so no not all of you are stupid
otherwise i wouldn't be here to post.
The thing that i believe is stupid is to see people that think that physical science can answer question that are not physical.  

Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.               

You have supported nothing, nada, zip...absolutely nothing.  Denying it doesn't alter the fact that you haven't, what you are doing is tant amount to a 6 year old sticking their fingers in their ears and singing loudly.

Just because you say something, doesn't make it a fact little Prik, quite the opposite in fact, given the evidence of the pages of tripe you've sprayed all over this thread.

Lastly, stop whining like a little bitch about respect and name calling.  Just to be completely clear, none of us respect you and I for one think are monumental thundercunt.



Now, about that study......

[Redbeard The Pink]

If you don't know what certain words means stop using them.
As simple as that.  

I know what disrespectful means, dipshit. It's not strictly the disrespect I'm addressing, but the fact that you've come onto the forum to spread assertions, failed to support them, and in lieu of supporting them instead spam smilies and condescending rhetoric. I find this indistinguishable from some of the Gaud-heads that get iced about 10 seconds into their first thread (and their 10 socks' first threads), which is why your continued presence here is such a mystery to me. What I'm saying (ALL I'm saying) is that you sound like an ignorant, preachy, belligerent Gaud-tard, and based on that I'm surprised your account isn't history. I am not making a moral claim or judgement, you ignorant cow-sniffing fuck.

Did i preach?
You show me one single time that i proposed to anyone here my belief (ananda marga).
The only time i point out what AM teach is when somebody ask me about my belief.
Usually is Jörmungandr that always try to dig in that topic.
So no, your accusation is crap.

Rik, the first, middle, and last thing you did in both this thread and the other one is assert (without supporting evidence) that reality is somehow permeated by an over-arching consciousness contained within everything, and that to deny this is unscientific and ignorant. You then failed to support this assertion, all the while belittling anyone who disagreed with you. Yes, that is preaching, and yes, that is exactly what you have been doing.

Wrong again beanie.
I am not the one who say.......THE CONSCIOUSNESS IS A PRODUCT OF THE BRAIN......and........THE CONSCIOUSNESS THAT WE GOT COME THANKS TO PREVIOUS GENERATION.....and......WE ONLY GOT OUR PHYSICAL SENSES......and......THE UNIVERSE STARTED WITH THE BIG BANG..........and and and
and more unsupported beliefs.  

You ARE, however, the one who claims that every speck of matter in the Universe has consciousness, down to the atomic level. You also claim that consciousness can exist outside of brains (or living matter in general, for that matter). These are claims you have failed to support.

Sometime i came across someone who propose something interesting so no not all of you are stupid
otherwise i wouldn't be here to post.
The thing that i believe is stupid is to see people that think that physical science can answer question that are not physical.  

Whether or not matter is permeated by a Universal consciousness is a physical question because it involves matter and its properties.

[Little Rik]

You keep going on about physical and none physical science.

The question is, what impact does this "none physical being"  have on the physical world.If it does not have an effect on the physical world then how do we know it is real if we can not test it and why should we care?
Again, it's the usual "absence of evidence".

You sort of presume that something non physical (if ever exist) does not have an effect on the physical world.
How did you come to such a conclusion?
How come then that carnivorous people are usually more aggressive than vegetarians?
Where aggressivity come from?
That is not something physical that can be passed in a physical way so we can deduce that is created in a non-physical way.
Some people wouldn't mind to live next to an abattoir while other people would keep far far away from it.
There is attraction and repulsive feeling all over the universe.
Where it all come from?
Is this so important to know?
I don't think so.
What is important is to follow the scent of pure attraction especially when this attraction is universal in nature but again some people follow the wrong scent and here is where you got to be careful as behind the scent can hide the rot.
So yes, there is attraction all the time and the evidence is in the fact that everybody search for peace of mind and total happiness and from here i presume that there is someone that attract. 

[robvalue]

Let's do a new study and settle this matter. Who's got some nice hammers? Let's use the other end this time.

[SofaKingHigh]

You keep going on about physical and none physical science.

The question is, what impact does this "none physical being"  have on the physical world.If it does not have an effect on the physical world then how do we know it is real if we can not test it and why should we care?
Again, it's the usual "absence of evidence".

You sort of presume that something non physical (if ever exist) does not have an effect on the physical world.
How did you come to such a conclusion?
How come then that carnivorous people are usually more aggressive than vegetarians?
Where aggressivity come from?
That is not something physical that can be passed in a physical way so we can deduce that is created in a non-physical way.
Some people wouldn't mind to live next to an abattoir while other people would keep far far away from it.
There is attraction and repulsive feeling all over the universe.
Where it all come from?
Is this so important to know?
I don't think so.
What is important is to follow the scent of pure attraction especially when this attraction is universal in nature but again some people follow the wrong scent and here is where you got to be careful as behind the scent can hide the rot.
So yes, there is attraction all the time and the evidence is in the fact that everybody search for peace of mind and total happiness and from here i presume that there is someone that attract. 

 

http://www.science20.com/news_articles/e...aggressive

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...nergy.html

[SofaKingHigh]

Now reply to the fucking study that debunks your claims about NDE's you plant loving fuckpig.

[Homeless Nutter]

You sort of presume that something non physical (if ever exist) does not have an effect on the physical world.
How did you come to such a conclusion?

Probably because frauds and fakirs have not been able to show any effect for thousands of years. All you have are fairy-tales and hear-say. Your bullsh*t magic has had a lot of time to show some usefulness - it's time to let go of the fantasy. We have real knowledge now. You don't have to beg fairies for magic beans.  

How come then that carnivorous people are usually more aggressive than vegetarians?

Where's your proof for this retarded assertion? Oh, you don't have it? Doesn't your rectum ache from pulling out all those "factoids"?

Where aggressivity come from?[...]

I don't know. What the f*** is "aggressivity"? Because it sure as f*** isn't a word.
ETA - Apparently it is a word.

Noun[edit]
aggressivity ‎(usually uncountable, plural aggressivities)

1. (geology) The acidic ability of water (when it contains dissolved carbon dioxide) to dissolve calcium carbonate from rocks
   

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/aggressivity

But what does that have to do with what you're talking about?

Sooo... What's the weather like, in Coo-Coo Land? Is it nice? I'll bet it's nice...