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RE: How Do You Get Over Death?
August 26, 2015 at 7:07 pm
(August 26, 2015 at 5:10 pm)Celestine Wrote: (August 26, 2015 at 10:32 am)Shuffle Wrote: In what way?! multiple ways, but if you were truly interested in how the big bang theory might be wrong you wouldn't be yelling (assuming you're yelling you do have an exclamation point here), but anyways you wouldn't be yelling at me, instead you would be asking yourself this question and voluntarily looking up the counter-argument(s) instead of asking me. From this I can only discern that your real purpose for this question would be to cause a meaningless debate that would waste precious time of both our lives. I was emotionally charged because I am so done with you stating things and not backing them up. Imagine if that is how science class worked.
Teacher: The big bang didn't happen... soooo yeah. Class over!
I understand that you are not my science teacher, and you shouldn't act like one, however it would be really nice if you could provide some evidence for your countless unsupported statements.
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RE: How Do You Get Over Death?
August 26, 2015 at 10:00 pm
(August 26, 2015 at 7:07 pm)Shuffle Wrote: (August 26, 2015 at 5:10 pm)Celestine Wrote: multiple ways, but if you were truly interested in how the big bang theory might be wrong you wouldn't be yelling (assuming you're yelling you do have an exclamation point here), but anyways you wouldn't be yelling at me, instead you would be asking yourself this question and voluntarily looking up the counter-argument(s) instead of asking me. From this I can only discern that your real purpose for this question would be to cause a meaningless debate that would waste precious time of both our lives. I was emotionally charged because I am so done with you stating things and not backing them up. Imagine if that is how science class worked.
Teacher: The big bang didn't happen... soooo yeah. Class over!
I understand that you are not my science teacher, and you shouldn't act like one, however it would be really nice if you could provide some evidence for your countless unsupported statements. The Big Bang Theory is simply a Catholic priest's theory of creation. It's silly if you think about it with a dozen brain cells. Even if there had been a ball of matter that exploded it would have been like a star going supernova. The explosion would have just resulted in hot gases like those in supernovas. That material would still have to reform into stars and other celestial objects.
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RE: How Do You Get Over Death?
August 26, 2015 at 10:37 pm
(August 26, 2015 at 10:00 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: (August 26, 2015 at 7:07 pm)Shuffle Wrote: I was emotionally charged because I am so done with you stating things and not backing them up. Imagine if that is how science class worked.
Teacher: The big bang didn't happen... soooo yeah. Class over!
I understand that you are not my science teacher, and you shouldn't act like one, however it would be really nice if you could provide some evidence for your countless unsupported statements. The Big Bang Theory is simply a Catholic priest's theory of creation. It's silly if you think about it with a dozen brain cells. Even if there had been a ball of matter that exploded it would have been like a star going supernova. The explosion would have just resulted in hot gases like those in supernovas. That material would still have to reform into stars and other celestial objects. The Big Bag WAS NOT an explosion. What a silly misconception that creationists and atheists alike LOVE to spread. Inform yourself, please!
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RE: How Do You Get Over Death?
August 26, 2015 at 10:41 pm
For me, personally, I simply don't let it worry me.
Death is inevitable. It's natural. One day I'll die.
If I spend my time worrying about it I won't live.
Dying to live, living to die.
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RE: How Do You Get Over Death?
August 27, 2015 at 1:18 am
(August 25, 2015 at 7:57 pm)Shuffle Wrote: Our universe is expanding towards infinite, but will never reach it, because it does not have infinite matter to spread.
Fact, claim or opinion?
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RE: How Do You Get Over Death?
August 27, 2015 at 9:54 am
(August 27, 2015 at 1:18 am)IATIA Wrote: (August 25, 2015 at 7:57 pm)Shuffle Wrote: Our universe is expanding towards infinite, but will never reach it, because it does not have infinite matter to spread.
Fact, claim or opinion?
Claim backed with evidence. An opinion is "I like strawberry ice cream." How the hell is that an opinion.
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RE: How Do You Get Over Death?
August 27, 2015 at 6:42 pm
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(August 27, 2015 at 9:54 am)Shuffle Wrote: (August 27, 2015 at 1:18 am)IATIA Wrote: Fact, claim or opinion?
Claim backed with evidence. An opinion is "I like strawberry ice cream." How the hell is that an opinion.
We should probably take this to a different thread if you are interested in continuing this particular discussion.
A "claim" is a pretty big pill to swallow. As it stands, we can only see stars or EM that has reached us. If there is a star 20 billion light years away, we will not see it for another 5 billion some years. Because of this possibility, it is impossible to prove the extent of the universe. It may very well be infinite in size with infinite matter. The universe arising from a singularity has pretty much gone the way of the gods.
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RE: How Do You Get Over Death?
August 27, 2015 at 9:32 pm
The way you get one over on death is to make a bargain with it and then cheat.
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RE: How Do You Get Over Death?
August 27, 2015 at 9:47 pm
I like to think of death as being equality in its purest form. But yes I can pretend all I want that I got over it, yet it still terrifies me at times. When that happens, I tell myself the same thing Hitchens said before passing away, life is just a party, no one wants to stay at a party forever.
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RE: How Do You Get Over Death?
August 27, 2015 at 11:05 pm
I mostly just enjoy my life as much as I can and try not to think about it very much. I may eventually reach a point in my life when I'm more at peace with the prospect of my impending nonexistence, but right now I'd like to have a long way to go before having to really worry more seriously about that eventuality.
Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
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