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RE: Your thoughts on Satanism and the petition for a Satanic statue.
September 16, 2015 at 11:27 am
Here's an interesting line in inquiry...stop me if somebody brought it up already.
CL, what things do you think are true about modern Satanists? Atheistic Satanists especially. What do you think they believe? What do you imagine their practices entail? What is your "mental avatar" when it comes to Satanists? How do you see them as people?
Have you ever looked at the 9 Satanic Sins? The 11 Laws of the Earth?
The Satanic Bible is one of the greatest trolls of all time. While there are some aspects of Atheistic Satanism that seem arrogant and other aspects that honestly seem kind of lame, the bottom line is that they've built a belief system that is more or less secular and humanistic and strives to treat others with respect and dignity unless they fail to do the same for you, and then hidden these tenets in a book that Christians will be too terrified to even open. I've actually met a few Satanists, and they tend to be polite, well-dressed, pleasant conversationalists who tip well at restaurants (at least in my experience). I'm sure there are some out there that are assholes, but as a general rule I certainly wouldn't describe them as apparently evil or monstrous people. For the most part they're just regular folks like most of us here. They certainly don't celebrate cruelty or sacrifice things to Satan.
Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com
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RE: Your thoughts on Satanism and the petition for a Satanic statue.
September 16, 2015 at 11:29 am
(September 9, 2015 at 12:08 pm)Alex K Wrote: The statue is a very important piece of activism, because it is the only way oppressive minded Christians will understand why intruding in public spaces with your private religion is not nice.
I don't care much for what I've heard about the "philosophy" behind this atheistic Satanism thing. Seems a bit egocentric and antisocial.
Well, that's as far as I got in this thread. I think I'm done. 
But for the OP - do you realize your siggy is not an actual quote?
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RE: Your thoughts on Satanism and the petition for a Satanic statue.
September 16, 2015 at 11:33 am
(September 16, 2015 at 11:27 am)Redbeard The Pink Wrote: Here's an interesting line in inquiry...stop me if somebody brought it up already.
CL, what things do you think are true about modern Satanists? Atheistic Satanists especially. What do you think they believe? What do you imagine their practices entail? What is your "mental avatar" when it comes to Satanists? How do you see them as people?
Have you ever looked at the 9 Satanic Sins? The 11 Laws of the Earth?
The Satanic Bible is one of the greatest trolls of all time. While there are some aspects of Atheistic Satanism that seem arrogant and other aspects that honestly seem kind of lame, the bottom line is that they've built a belief system that is more or less secular and humanistic and strives to treat others with respect and dignity unless they fail to do the same for you, and then hidden these tenets in a book that Christians will be too terrified to even open. I've actually met a few Satanists, and they tend to be polite, well-dressed, pleasant conversationalists who tip well at restaurants (at least in my experience). I'm sure there are some out there that are assholes, but as a general rule I certainly wouldn't describe them as apparently evil or monstrous people. For the most part they're just regular folks like most of us here. They certainly don't celebrate cruelty or sacrifice things to Satan.
Hi, yes, I've looked over their website and think I understand what they're about.
I do think they chose the name "Satanist" as kind of a jab at Christianity, but since I can't know for sure, I've come to conclude that it's best to give them the benefit of the doubt. 
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: Your thoughts on Satanism and the petition for a Satanic statue.
September 16, 2015 at 11:34 am
(September 16, 2015 at 11:29 am)houseofcantor Wrote: But for the OP - do you realize your siggy is not an actual quote?
Hmm, are you referring to the biblical one from Jesus?
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: Your thoughts on Satanism and the petition for a Satanic statue.
September 16, 2015 at 11:38 am
(September 16, 2015 at 11:34 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (September 16, 2015 at 11:29 am)houseofcantor Wrote: But for the OP - do you realize your siggy is not an actual quote?
Hmm, are you referring to the biblical one from Jesus?
The one that misrepresents the pope.
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RE: Your thoughts on Satanism and the petition for a Satanic statue.
September 16, 2015 at 11:43 am
(September 16, 2015 at 11:38 am)houseofcantor Wrote: (September 16, 2015 at 11:34 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Hmm, are you referring to the biblical one from Jesus?
The one that misrepresents the pope.
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"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: Your thoughts on Satanism and the petition for a Satanic statue.
September 16, 2015 at 11:48 am
(September 16, 2015 at 11:43 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (September 16, 2015 at 11:38 am)houseofcantor Wrote: The one that misrepresents the pope.
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Here ya go.. False, sayeth the Snopes.
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RE: Your thoughts on Satanism and the petition for a Satanic statue.
September 16, 2015 at 12:05 pm
(September 16, 2015 at 11:48 am)houseofcantor Wrote: (September 16, 2015 at 11:43 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: ?
Here ya go.. False, sayeth the Snopes.
Ok. First, he did say the quote on my signature, so yes, it is a "real quote." Lol.
Nothing he said is heretical. Yes, we believe Jesus did die for all of us. Yes, we can all do good deeds, as we should. Some of the more uber conservative Catholics took it to mean that everyone automatically goes to Heaven, and got upset. But that is not what he said. Personally, I believe atheists can go to Heaven, but technically we don't know for sure and can't infallibly proclaim who does or does not go to Heaven (except the saints). So the Vatican had to make a statement. Regardless of what the Pope says, there are always going to be people who get upset about it, who take it to the extreme to mean something different, or who twist it to mean something else.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: Your thoughts on Satanism and the petition for a Satanic statue.
September 16, 2015 at 12:20 pm
(September 16, 2015 at 12:05 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (September 16, 2015 at 11:48 am)houseofcantor Wrote: Here ya go.. False, sayeth the Snopes.
Ok. First, he did say the quote on my signature, so yes, it is a "real quote." Lol.
I was incorrect. Thanks. Carry on. 
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RE: Your thoughts on Satanism and the petition for a Satanic statue.
September 17, 2015 at 6:25 am
I asked this question earlier and no Christian responded. I'll try again:
Say the Satanists wanted to erect that demon statue right in front of a prominent public building, which currently has no religious symbols anywhere near it.
(1) Would you personally agree this should be allowed?
(2) Do you think the authorities would allow it?
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