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RE: Dear Christians: What does your god actually do?
September 29, 2015 at 6:30 am
(September 29, 2015 at 1:32 am)Godschild Wrote: (September 28, 2015 at 4:13 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: Really? The people of "those lands" do not want the Bible proven? REALLY, dude?
No one on this earth has more to profit by than the Israel Antiquities Authority, since the tourism that their archaeological finds generate is massive. And yet, here's what they had to say about him:
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The areas to be searched are in Muslim controlled countries, the Muslims definitely wouldn't want the Bible to be proven correct, it's why they want give Christians access to sites that are Biblical. Wyatt has video of those chariot wheels. Does it take a degree to recognize and video chariot wheels, I don't think so. Wyatt tried to get permission from the governments of many nations but was refused because he's a Christian looking to bring evidence of Bible stories.
GC
I don't suppose you realize that Islam is rooted in the Christian Bible, do you? It's an offshoot of Christianity, which is an offshoot of Judaism. That's all Bible stuff. They actually think Moses's Torah, David's Psalms, and Jesus's Gospel are pretty good; they just also happen think Christians fucked up the message because they're stupid and misinterpreted and/or added things, so Gaud had to come along again and correct himself again by sending another prophet to clarify things.
Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
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RE: Dear Christians: What does your god actually do?
September 29, 2015 at 7:11 am
God is either really bad at communicating, or wants people to be confused and kill each other over it.
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RE: Dear Christians: What does your god actually do?
September 29, 2015 at 8:23 am
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(September 29, 2015 at 1:20 am)Godschild Wrote: !00g of beef contains up to 83ug of B12 and an adult only needs 2.5ug daily to have a healthy level of B12, so the very portions you posted for eggs and dairy would be more than enough B12 daily. So get off the B12 deal it's a dead issue now.
GC that's the RDI - you obviously don't know what an RDI is. In any-case without meat you would need to eat TEN eggs to meet the RDI.
And like I said I have a close family member who eats meat every day of their life - chicken, beef, veal, lamb, every day - and they need a B12 injection from their physician every 12 months.
So you can shove the RDI up your ass - NRVs cannot be used to diagnose a deficiency in individuals, they can only be used to calculate the likeliness of deficiency in populations.
Like I said though, before the Ark God instructs people only to eat plant food - true? No eggs, no meat, and there was no diary (it's not possible for adults to digest it without a lactate persistence gene).
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RE: Dear Christians: What does your god actually do?
September 29, 2015 at 4:08 pm
(September 29, 2015 at 8:23 am)Aractus Wrote: (September 29, 2015 at 1:20 am)Godschild Wrote: !00g of beef contains up to 83ug of B12 and an adult only needs 2.5ug daily to have a healthy level of B12, so the very portions you posted for eggs and dairy would be more than enough B12 daily. So get off the B12 deal it's a dead issue now.
GC that's the RDI - you obviously don't know what an RDI is. In any-case without meat you would need to eat TEN eggs to meet the RDI.
And like I said I have a close family member who eats meat every day of their life - chicken, beef, veal, lamb, every day - and they need a B12 injection from their physician every 12 months.
So you can shove the RDI up your ass - NRVs cannot be used to diagnose a deficiency in individuals, they can only be used to calculate the likeliness of deficiency in populations.
Like I said though, before the Ark God instructs people only to eat plant food - true? No eggs, no meat, and there was no diary (it's not possible for adults to digest it without a lactate persistence gene).
So your going to argue with nutritional experts. Your family member has a problem absorbing B12 that's has nothing to do with the majority of the population. B12 deficiencies are a small problem at least in the developed world. Since you can't prove God didn't create livestock ( by the way you are leaving the Bible and introducing evolution theory), you can't say He didn't intend for man to eat eggs and drink milk. God said only to Adam and Eve that He gave them every plant and tree to eat from in the Garden except for the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. This would include the Tree of Life and we haven't any idea what benefits came from it for their physical needs, except for living. After they were thrown out of the Garden their first son raised livestock, why would he do this if their was no use for them.
By your own calculations your above statement is wrong on the number of eggs that are needed to provide enough B12, the body also stores B12 for use when it's not receiving enough on a daily bases, you also left out milk in your equation for a daily supply lowering even further the number of eggs needed daily.
I've proven to you that you are wrong about the Bible and you want recognize it, this isn't my fault it's your's. You went out side of the scriptures to try and prove your point, I stayed inside them and used only scientific facts we know of today to support the Bible's truth.
GC
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RE: Dear Christians: What does your god actually do?
September 29, 2015 at 4:24 pm
(September 29, 2015 at 6:30 am)Redbeard The Pink Wrote: (September 29, 2015 at 1:32 am)Godschild Wrote: The areas to be searched are in Muslim controlled countries, the Muslims definitely wouldn't want the Bible to be proven correct, it's why they want give Christians access to sites that are Biblical. Wyatt has video of those chariot wheels. Does it take a degree to recognize and video chariot wheels, I don't think so. Wyatt tried to get permission from the governments of many nations but was refused because he's a Christian looking to bring evidence of Bible stories.
GC
I don't suppose you realize that Islam is rooted in the Christian Bible, do you? It's an offshoot of Christianity, which is an offshoot of Judaism. That's all Bible stuff. They actually think Moses's Torah, David's Psalms, and Jesus's Gospel are pretty good; they just also happen think Christians fucked up the message because they're stupid and misinterpreted and/or added things, so Gaud had to come along again and correct himself again by sending another prophet to clarify things.
I really do not like responding to you, but in this case to show you how wrong you are I've decided to respond. Islam denies the divinity of Christ, Judaism is the stopping short of following God's will, the Jewish people are famous stopping short of God's will and accepting His promises. The Islamic nations know if parts of the Bible are shown to be true it would destroy their false religion, why because of Jesus many references to the OT. They are fine with things the way they are, because they believe in their deluded minds they have things right, they are a war mongering group, just look at the Middle East, they're even killing their own selves because they can't agree on what is right and what's not in their own religious book.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Dear Christians: What does your god actually do?
September 29, 2015 at 4:27 pm
(September 29, 2015 at 2:56 am)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: (September 29, 2015 at 1:32 am)Godschild Wrote: The areas to be searched are in Muslim controlled countries, the Muslims definitely wouldn't want the Bible to be proven correct, it's why they want give Christians access to sites that are Biblical. Wyatt has video of those chariot wheels. Does it take a degree to recognize and video chariot wheels, I don't think so. Wyatt tried to get permission from the governments of many nations but was refused because he's a Christian looking to bring evidence of Bible stories.
GC
The problem with your pet conspiracy theory is that the Muslim Qur'an is based on the Old Testament, and contains the stories of Moses, Noah, etc.
Finding those objects would be a win for them, too.
The Surah of Nuh (Book of Noah).
http://www.noblequran.com/translation/surah71.html
And the story of Moses and the Red Sea is in Surah 26:52-67.
http://www.noblequran.com/translation/surah26.html
Like I said they do not want Christians proving these things, they believe it would justify Christianity, and they would be correct.
GC
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RE: Dear Christians: What does your god actually do?
September 29, 2015 at 4:30 pm
(September 29, 2015 at 4:27 pm)Godschild Wrote: (September 29, 2015 at 2:56 am)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: The problem with your pet conspiracy theory is that the Muslim Qur'an is based on the Old Testament, and contains the stories of Moses, Noah, etc.
Finding those objects would be a win for them, too.
The Surah of Nuh (Book of Noah).
http://www.noblequran.com/translation/surah71.html
And the story of Moses and the Red Sea is in Surah 26:52-67.
http://www.noblequran.com/translation/surah26.html
Like I said they do not want Christians proving these things, they believe it would justify Christianity, and they would be correct.
GC
Strange that you would conclude these things would justify Christianity rather than Judaism. Ok, not really strange at all. Just another example of how thoroughly the Jewish scriptures were hijacked by the Gentiles and the Jews have been marginalized, even when it comes to their own holy book.
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RE: Dear Christians: What does your god actually do?
September 29, 2015 at 4:35 pm
(September 28, 2015 at 11:21 pm)Aractus Wrote:
I disagree entirely that Jesus put any effort into trying to move Judaism away from the teachings of the Pentateuch.
Up to a point I agree with you. Jesus endorsed the OT 'project'; he needed it to explain what he was doing. He never rejects the Pentateuch, Torah, or prophets, but their part is played. Like the taxi driver that takes you home, once the journey is over, you don't need to continue to be with them.
Jesus put a lot of effort into saying that Judaism was entering a new phase. That things were redefined around him and his actions. That the older symbols of Temple, food, nation and land were no longer the defining points of Judaism. That he was the culmination and fulfilment of the OT project.
Regarding the NT as a historical document, with all the biases, errors and omissions that entails, still leaves little doubt that what Jesus said went along those lines. Multiple attestation of sources and forms pretty much guarantees it. Plus, he had to be saying something beyond “I want a fairer Israel for all” to get himself killed.
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RE: Dear Christians: What does your god actually do?
September 29, 2015 at 5:04 pm
(September 29, 2015 at 4:27 pm)Godschild Wrote: (September 29, 2015 at 2:56 am)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote:
Like I said they do not want Christians proving these things, they believe it would justify Christianity, and they would be correct.
GC
No, it's in the Qur'an. That means finding those items would justify Islam (as well as Christianity and Judaism). They have every reason to want a story from the Qur'an (as well as the Old Testament on which it is based) to be verified by such a find as the chariots destroyed by Moses/God.
Why in the world would they not want Surah 26:52-67 verified by finding the chariot wheels?!
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RE: Dear Christians: What does your god actually do?
September 29, 2015 at 5:09 pm
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(September 29, 2015 at 4:24 pm)Godschild Wrote: [...] They are fine with things the way they are, because they believe in their deluded minds they have things right, they are a war mongering group, just look at the Middle East, they're even killing their own selves because they can't agree on what is right and what's not in their own religious book.
That's not a very nice way to talk about christians - even if it fits perfectly...
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