RE: Let me get this straight...
October 9, 2015 at 9:59 am
(This post was last modified: October 9, 2015 at 10:02 am by houseofcantor.
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Let me get this straight...
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It's weird how god's power to heal is limited to the current level of human expertise and technology, isn't it?
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Please visit my website here! It's got lots of information about atheism/theism and support for new atheists. Index of useful threads and discussions Index of my best videos Quickstart guide to the forum  (October 8, 2015 at 3:49 pm)dyresand Wrote: A being called yaweh loves us presumably "loves" us. And if we do not accept a his son/him dying we go to hell? The way you guys view this is amazing. By analogy, it's as if you were convicted of a crime, didn't ask the governor for a pardon, then complained that you're in jail just because you didn't get a pardon. No, you're in jail for the crime. 
Except that the analogy says that we were born in prison and have to serve an eternal sentence for a crime that someone millenia ago committed.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
 (October 9, 2015 at 10:25 am)Stimbo Wrote: Except that the analogy says that we were born in prison and have to serve an eternal sentence for a crime that someone millenia ago committed. Bingo.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.  (October 9, 2015 at 9:50 am)Drich Wrote:(October 9, 2015 at 9:31 am)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: Wow. That's not offensive at all.how is that offensive? If you really have had to deal with all three of those things, I apologize for assuming you were being sarcastic or exploiting horrible health conditions to make a point. My sympathies, in that case.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I have, but apparently your god hasn't if your analogy is anything to go by.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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