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Objectifying women
RE: Objectifying women
How about you look at a dictionary.

Quote:blame   [bleym] Show IPA verb,blamed, blam·ing, noun
–verb (used with object)
1.
to hold responsible; find fault with; censure: I don't blame you for leaving him.
2.
to place the responsibility for (a fault, error, etc.) (usually fol. by on): I blame the accident on her.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/blame

I highlighted the key word for you.


Words, they mean things. Go figure.

You're an idiot, and I mean that in the nice- ....no, I don't.
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RE: Objectifying women
(May 21, 2010 at 2:17 pm)tavarish Wrote: I've noticed the only people complaining about this issue are usually the less attractive ones in the bunch. I wonder why that is.

*gasp* Did you just call me ugly, you fucker? Confusedhock: Tongue
RE: Objectifying women
Are you personally responsible for your own personal protection?

It's a Yes or No question. For those here so blinded by their emotions they cannot grasp the concept, I'll give you a hint.

It's not No.

I'm with Tav here, you need to grow up.

I also mean that in the nicest way possible.
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RE: Objectifying women
(May 21, 2010 at 10:22 pm)Shell B Wrote:
(May 21, 2010 at 2:17 pm)tavarish Wrote: I've noticed the only people complaining about this issue are usually the less attractive ones in the bunch. I wonder why that is.

*gasp* Did you just call me ugly, you fucker? Confusedhock: Tongue

Them's fightin' words.
RE: Objectifying women
tavarish Wrote:It's because the individuals that read it can't stop their emotionally-driven arguments enough to realize no one's blaming women for being raped.

This is where everything is getting stupid. Some people have indeed used the word blame, other people have not. The people who haven't are saying that everyone hasn't. This thread has become a clusterfuck of repetition and obvious miscommunication.

You know, sometimes an argument calls for an emotionally-driven perspective. Argue with me all you want, but none of us would even be discussing this if it weren't for emotions on both sides of the argument.

That being said, I'm scared that Adrian is going to rape us all now, so I'm getting out my Christmas Story style snowsuit to protect myself from him.
RE: Objectifying women
Oops many posts in between. This post was meant to appear directly below my previous post.


I thought it would be funny just to put the word "bitch" here. But I decided against it. Even though I just saw others being called "Idiot" and "Fucker" I believe the emo driven would create a negative consequence for me. When emotions are driving a persons thoughts most likely their actions can be just as easily driven. Take those christains and muslims for example. Those are some emotionally driven folks eh? If they could just see past or suppress that emotional "well-up" within them, they may be able to see things more logically and take positive courses of action instead of relying on "It's in Gods hands", or simply praying it to be a certain way.

What do you think?

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Did you see what I did there?

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No, no that. I was attempting to de-rail this thread that Eiloo de-railed into what it has turned into now.
I used to tell a lot of religious jokes. Not any more, I'm a registered sects offender.
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...the least christian thing a person can do is to become a christian. ~Chuck
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NO MA'AM
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RE: Objectifying women
(May 21, 2010 at 10:56 pm)tavarish Wrote:
(May 21, 2010 at 10:22 pm)Shell B Wrote:
(May 21, 2010 at 2:17 pm)tavarish Wrote: I've noticed the only people complaining about this issue are usually the less attractive ones in the bunch. I wonder why that is.

*gasp* Did you just call me ugly, you fucker? Confusedhock: Tongue

Them's fightin' words.

Oh, good. I did my best to sound aggressive. Devil
Dotard Wrote:Even though I just saw others being called "Idiot" and "Fucker"

To be fair, the fucker was from me and I thought it was fairly obvious I wasn't being serious.
RE: Objectifying women
(May 21, 2010 at 10:11 pm)Eilonnwy Wrote: How about you look at a dictionary.

Quote:blame   [bleym] Show IPA verb,blamed, blam·ing, noun
–verb (used with object)
1.
to hold responsible; find fault with; censure: I don't blame you for leaving him.
2.
to place the responsibility for (a fault, error, etc.) (usually fol. by on): I blame the accident on her.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/blame

I highlighted the key word for you.


Words, they mean things. Go figure.

You're an idiot, and I mean that in the nice- ....no, I don't.

Words mean things, NOW I GET IT!

How about instead of ranting about how words mean things, you read what the fucking text says and analyze its CONTEXT.

Do I know that blame is necessarily putting responsibility on a certain party? Of course.

Did I say that rape is a victim's fault? NO. In fact I argued the opposite. Rape is bad in nearly any context and is unjustifiable.

Did I say that a woman should be aware of her surroundings and watch her back when she gets extra attention? YES.

NOT the same thing. There are definitely times when women don't do all they can to avert a situation like this from happening. This does not shift blame or make the act justifiable, it just allows a frightening statistic to increase as a result of negligience, apathy, or ignorance.

I know your vagina practically origami'd itself when this thread was made, but please try and keep the emotions under control, all I said was for women, particularly attractive ones, to exercise caution when they leave the house wearing attire that attracts attention.

If you don't understand the difference between these things, I honestly don't know what else to say. Every post gets a "ZOMG YOU BLAMED THE VICTIM" when that's the complete opposite of what I was saying.

If I advised you to get an alarm for your house, would you tell me that I was telling you it's your fault if you get robbed?

You called me an idiot, great. Any other relevant discussion elements to throw into the mix?

Use your fucking head.
RE: Objectifying women
(May 21, 2010 at 11:01 pm)Shell B Wrote: .....none of us would even be discussing this if it weren't for emotions on both sides of the argument.


Nope. I have no emotional attachment to this topic what-so-ever.
(May 21, 2010 at 11:06 pm)tavarish Wrote: I know your vagina practically origami'd itself when this thread was made, but please try and keep the emotions under control,

ROFLOL
I used to tell a lot of religious jokes. Not any more, I'm a registered sects offender.
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...the least christian thing a person can do is to become a christian. ~Chuck
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NO MA'AM
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RE: Objectifying women
(May 21, 2010 at 11:01 pm)Dotard Wrote: Oops many posts in between. This post was meant to appear directly below my previous post.


I thought it would be funny just to put the word "bitch" here. But I decided against it.

That would create a menstrual deluge of such epic proportions Poseidon himself wouldn't touch it with a 40-ft pole.
(May 21, 2010 at 11:03 pm)Shell B Wrote:
(May 21, 2010 at 10:56 pm)tavarish Wrote:
(May 21, 2010 at 10:22 pm)Shell B Wrote:
(May 21, 2010 at 2:17 pm)tavarish Wrote: I've noticed the only people complaining about this issue are usually the less attractive ones in the bunch. I wonder why that is.

*gasp* Did you just call me ugly, you fucker? Confusedhock: Tongue

Them's fightin' words.

Oh, good. I did my best to sound aggressive. Devil
Dotard Wrote:Even though I just saw others being called "Idiot" and "Fucker"

To be fair, the fucker was from me and I thought it was fairly obvious I wasn't being serious.

I'll let you all know something - I don't take anything seriously.

Not even myself.




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