refuting misconceptions:1-women in Islam

[annatar]

Your wives are a place of sowing of seed for you, so come to your place of cultivation however you wish and put forth [righteousness] for yourselves. And fear Allah and know that you will meet Him. And give good tidings to the believers.
baqarah 223.

that is the view of islam to women...
women are just sex objects to muhammad. nothing else.
punishment for adultery ;
to man, 2 years of exile.
to woman, rajm (stoning, putting to death by pelting stones.)
(okay its not particularly written on quran but there are undeniable proofs that muhammed used this punishment. still in use in arab countries.)
damn, women and men are truly equal in the eye of islam..
dont be fooled people islam is a really dangerous religion though all religions are dangerous.

[Minimalist]

dont be fooled people islam is a really dangerous religion though all religions are dangerous.

We know. Don't worry. No one is falling for mohammad's line of shit.

[mo3taz3nbar]

@annatar if its not written in the Quran it depends on the ruler to decide and plz dont write false information with no evidence it is really hard to answer this write from where you get your information so i can clarify anything you claim

[annatar]

none of the information i gave here was false. beside the fact that quran depends on false informations..
I quoted quran and you are saying its false... thats interesting.
I can show you hundreds of Hadith(A 'recollection' of a act or saying of Muhammad A 'recollection' of a act or saying of Muhammad ). None of the muslim scholars can deny rajm..(apart from they dont want to deny it at all..)
and there are historical evidences that proves rajm was common punishment at muhammad's time..
Hz Ali himself executed a woman with this punishment and said it was Sunna (the sayings and doings of Mohammed , which form a basis )
and there are many more other hadith about this punishment. you can find them just google it...(or if you dont trust google ask someone whom you trust..)
btw you didnt say anything about baqarah 223.(ofcourse you may have already said 'silence!!! i kill you!')
anyway let me show you another example about women..

"And if you fear that you will not deal justly with the orphan girls, then marry those that please you of [other] women, two or three or four. But if you fear that you will not be just, then [marry only] one or those your right hand possesses. That is more suitable that you may not incline [to injustice]."
Nisa 3.
Actually search the word 'woman' in quran. you will find plenty of this kind of verses..
simple math about women in islam. Man=Woman x 2 thats all...

[mo3taz3nbar]

none of the information i gave here was false. beside the fact that quran depends on false informations..
I quoted quran and you are saying its false... thats interesting.

you didnt quote the Quran in all things i answered the once you quoted the verse in

I can show you hundreds of Hadith(A 'recollection' of a act or saying of Muhammad A 'recollection' of a act or saying of Muhammad ). None of the muslim scholars can deny rajm..(apart from they dont want to deny it at all..)
and there are historical evidences that proves rajm was common punishment at muhammad's time..
Hz Ali himself executed a woman with this punishment and said it was Sunna (the sayings and doings of Mohammed , which form a basis )

i didnt say that rajm is not applicable i was talking about the rajm for woman and 2 years for the man and you are generalising thing that have a lot of specifications

btw you didnt say anything about baqarah 223.(ofcourse you may have already said 'silence!!! i kill you!')
anyway let me show you another example about women..

you said before bakara 180 i answered that before check previous posts plz
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And if you fear that you will not deal justly with the orphan girls, then marry those that please you of [other] women, two or three or four. But if you fear that you will not be just, then [marry only] one or those your right hand possesses. That is more suitable that you may not incline [to injustice]."
Nisa 3.

what is your problem with that????

Actually search the word 'woman' in quran. you will find plenty of this kind of verses..
simple math about women in islam. Man=Woman x 2 thats all...

read the original thread to avoid asking questions i answered before

[annatar]

Your wives are a place of sowing of seed for you, so come to your place of cultivation however you wish and put forth [righteousness] for yourselves. And fear Allah and know that you will meet Him. And give good tidings to the believers.
baqarah 223.

you see its here... explain this please its a verse not false information(i didnt find any answer from you about this verse...).

i will write baqarah 180. but its irrelevant to this topic its about "why god can't do simple math?"

So let him write and let the one who has the obligation dictate. And let him fear Allah , his Lord, and not leave anything out of it. But if the one who has the obligation is of limited understanding or weak or unable to dictate himself, then let his guardian dictate in justice. And bring to witness two witnesses from among your men. And if there are not two men [available], then a man and two women from those whom you accept as witnesses - so that if one of the women errs, then the other can remind her.

here you can see muhammad says women are dumb. there is no explanation about this you cant explain..
and if you try to explain it that means you agree with muhammed therefor 1man=Woman x 2

Quote:And if you fear that you will not deal justly with the orphan girls, then marry those that please you of [other] women, two or three or four. But if you fear that you will not be just, then [marry only] one or those your right hand possesses. That is more suitable that you may not incline [to injustice]."
Nisa 3.

what is your problem with that????

if you cant see the problem here there is nothing to talk about..

[mo3taz3nbar]

you see its here... explain this please its a verse not false information(i didnt find any answer from you about this verse...).

i will write baqarah 180. but its irrelevant to this topic its about "why god can't do simple math?"

plz check the posts before as i answered that before i dont want to keep repeating the same posts.about the simple math thing i have no idea what you are talking about plz clarify or write the verse you are talking about

here you can see muhammad says women are dumb. there is no explanation about this you cant explain..
and if you try to explain it that means you agree with muhammed therefor 1man=Woman x 2

i also answered that before

[annatar]

you see its here... explain this please its a verse not false information(i didnt find any answer from you about this verse...).

i will write baqarah 180. but its irrelevant to this topic its about "why god can't do simple math?"

plz check the posts before as i answered that before i dont want to keep repeating the same posts.about the simple math thing i have no idea what you are talking about plz clarify or write the verse you are talking about

here you can see muhammad says women are dumb. there is no explanation about this you cant explain..
and if you try to explain it that means you agree with muhammed therefor 1man=Woman x 2

i also answered that before

okay my bad sorry its not "baqarah 180." its An-Nisa 11. i wasnt going to post it here for its off topic but you are forcing me. and i know you wont answer my questions until i post it...

Allah instructs you concerning your children: for the male, what is equal to the share of two females. But if there are [only] daughters, two or more, for them is two thirds of one's estate. And if there is only one, for her is half. And for one's parents, to each one of them is a sixth of his estate if he left children. But if he had no children and the parents [alone] inherit from him, then for his mother is one third. And if he had brothers [or sisters], for his mother is a sixth, after any bequest he [may have] made or debt. Your parents or your children - you know not which of them are nearest to you in benefit. [These shares are] an obligation [imposed] by Allah . Indeed, Allah is ever Knowing and Wise.
Nisa 11.

okay there is the math problem...
first of all read it carefully. then read it again for its impossible to understand at one time
lets do the math then..

2/3 to daughter 1/6 to mother and father each. 1/8 to his wife.
(2/3)+(1/6)+(1/6)+(1/8 )= 27/24 = 1,125
okay if you are little educated you can see that mathematical error here. you cant divide your heritage as quran instructed. its impossible...

You didnt answer any of my questions you are just dodging them.
please comment on baqarah 223. and tell me how this is not an insulting point of view.
are you willing to say this to a woman ;
you are a place of sowing of seed for me, so i will come to my place of cultivation however I wish and put forth [righteousness] for myself.

if you already write it please copy and paste it becouse i couldn't find it anywhere!!!

[mo3taz3nbar]

okay there is the math problem...
first of all read it carefully. then read it again for its impossible to understand at one time

lol that verse is very hard to be translated i just used the arabic Quran or you have to get Quran with commentary

2/3 to daughter 1/6 to mother and father each. 1/8 to his wife.
(2/3)+(1/6)+(1/6)+(1/8 )= 27/24 = 1,125
okay if you are little educated you can see that mathematical error here. you cant divide your heritage as quran instructed. its impossible...

lol you are adding different situations to each other the first situation is if a man died and left 2 daughters or more and thats it there is no wife mentioned or parents the parents is mentioned in a different situation in the rest of the verse. not all the situations are mentioned in the Quran but we were given general rules that when used you can know what to do in all the situations
http://islamqa.com/en/cat/338&pp=200 have fun
why didnt you ask yourself if muhammed(pbuh) wrote the Quran why wouldnt he ignore inheritance as it is ignored in other religions and does this would make a difference for the believers? and why didnt he just leave inheritance as it was before islam?and why didnt he put simple rules regardless of its fairness or not?

You didnt answer any of my questions you are just dodging them.
please comment on baqarah 223. and tell me how this is not an insulting point of view.

see page 15 the questions of atheistphil and my answers

[annatar]

lol you are adding different situations to each other the first situation is if a man died and left 2 daughters or more and thats it there is no wife mentioned or parents the parents is mentioned in a different situation in the rest of the verse. not all the situations are mentioned in the Quran but we were given general rules that when used you can know what to do in all the situations

no it is not different situations... are you saying one cant have a daughter, mother, father and wife at the same time???
dude even muslim people struggled to solve this mathematical error.they are using some constant(called avl) to fix that error(its not fixing it though you are not using exact percentages which god instructed. by the way it is a great sin according to quran, violating Allah's words...)

why didnt you ask yourself if muhammed(pbuh) wrote the Quran why wouldnt he ignore inheritance as it is ignored in other religions and does this would make a difference for the believers? and why didnt he just leave inheritance as it was before islam?and why didnt he put simple rules regardless of its fairness or not?

first of all its not a fair division at all.modern laws are way better suited. are you saying your god couldn't think that???And you are asking why he put these rules to quran? Thats good becouse you are starting to understand Muhammed. he is a mean, power-mad person who wants to control everyone and everything. Thats why you can see all instructions about how to ea,t how to walk, how to dress. and you can see these verses written after he took control of all arab world. in quran you can see verses for muhammed's guests, telling them not to stay too long or about muhammed's sexual life, which wife he has to visit today etc...He wrote those verses just for his selfish benefits. you can see them.
just read the quran.