eDialogue.org : My experience in a Muhammadan chat room

[ReptilianPeon]

I thought taqiya, and perhaps someone will correct me, was exclusively a Shia thing (to hide from Sunnis and avoid persecution). But certainly the individuals on that website are bring deceitful - whether they realize it or not. I'm not saying they aren't - I just would not refer to what they are doing as taqiya.

Funnily enough the website is based on a road named after Saudi royalty. I think there are many Saudis who hate the royal family, partially in Eastern Provide where there are lots of Shia, but the White House is happy with the status quo so they will support the butchers if it means more cheap oil.

I had a look on the map and most of the big roads in Saudi are named after Saudi establishment figures. For example, the road on the south side of the Great Masjid in Mecca is named after one of the kings. Saudi is similar to DPRK and exposes the hypocrisy of Western governments. Yeah, let's turn a. Kind eye when Saudis support Taliban, and now DAESH

[Darinda]

 I quoted a few relevant Quran verses when needed, but each time I was told they were out of context. But each time, I was not told what the context actually was. Sad.

When someone uses the "taken out of context" argument without explaining what it's really supposed to mean, you know he's lying.

[TheRocketSurgeon]

I think it's worth noting that our questioning atheist appears to have lasted longer there than an honest Muslim.

That's your first clue.

[WinterHold]

I thought taqiya, and perhaps someone will correct me, was exclusively a Shia thing (to hide from Sunnis and avoid persecution). But certainly the individuals on that website are bring deceitful - whether they realize it or not. I'm not saying they aren't - I just would not refer to what they are doing as taqiya.

Funnily enough the website is based on a road named after Saudi royalty. I think there are many Saudis who hate the royal family, partially in Eastern Provide where there are lots of Shia,  but the White House is happy with the status quo so they will support the butchers if it means more cheap oil.

I had a look on the map and most of the big roads in Saudi are named after Saudi establishment figures. For example, the road on the south side of the Great Masjid in Mecca is named after one of the kings. Saudi is similar to DPRK and exposes the hypocrisy of Western governments. Yeah, let's turn a. Kind eye when Saudis support Taliban, and now  DAESH

When you use it to convert people, by hiding "the other side of the moon", is what I mean.
Shia use it all the time in excess, to hide the hideous parts their religion contains. Sunna do the same.

They use it to avoid persecution in debates. They rarely show the other face; Sunna tend to be balder, Shia would lie until the end, after all, this type of Taqyia is a "worship" to them.

shia of saudi arabia were invaded; that's for sure, the Sauds took their lands, the way I see it, they are not even treated as Saudies..it's impossible to see a Shia have a high rank in the country. There revolts are met with bullets, they never allow them to talk.

There are good people there, they can even be of good use to the sauds..but the racism of that tribal community is so sad an severe.

A secular state would never care but for its interest; after all..what interest do some shias in the saudi arabia hold to the U.S ?

[ReptilianPeon]

Does anyone remember when Saudi sent their military over the causeway and into Bahrain? Bahrain is majority Shia, like Iran, so naturally they have to kill as many as possible. Shows just how little the United States cares about democracy. But of course, I keep hearing from these taqiya people you speak of, AtlasS33, that Saudi is this amazing country.

These people claim that the religion is easy to understand and yet they are amoung the strictest believers. Now they also trying to brainwash African people into thinking Arabs have always treated slaves nicely. Arab slave trade anyone? It killed more people than the Atlantic Slave Trade by some estimates. And who can forget the slavery that goes on today because of the Kafalah system, not to mention the deleterious country called the Isalmic Republic of Mauritania - where Arabs frequently own blacks as slaves.

[WinterHold]

Spot on MNMP. Slavery is still going there under the Kafalah system.
Human rights and democracy are mere "pressure cards" that the U.S use to control regimes, the government there doesn't really care.

It was always groups of good people and activists in the U.S and the west, who have hearts and who care. Governments never care.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

So, essentially you entered a religious chat room which did not live up promises made, and encountered phonies, stonewalling, and hostility.

*yawn*

Boru