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Muslims
Pew Research (2013):
Only 57% of Muslims worldwide disapprove of al-Qaeda.
Only 51% disapprove of the Taliban.
13% support both groups and 1 in 4 refuse to say.
http://www.pewglobal.org/2013/09/10/muslim-publics-share-concerns-about-extremist-groups/[1]
Wenzel Strategies (2012):
58% of Muslim-Americans believe criticism of Islam or Muhammad is not protected free speech under the First Amendment.
45% believe mockers of Islam should face criminal charges (38% said they should not).
12% of Muslim-Americans believe blaspheming Islam should be punishable by death.
43% of Muslim-Americans believe people of other faiths have no right to evangelize Muslims.
32% of Muslims in America believe that Sharia should be the supreme law of the land.http://www.andrewbostom.org/blog/2012/10/31/sixty-percent-of-us-muslims-reject-freedom-of-expression[2]
ICM Poll:
40% of British Muslims want Sharia in the UK
20% of British Muslims sympathize with 7/7 bombers
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1510866/Poll-reveals-40pc-of-Muslims-want-sharia-law-in-UK.html[3]
Pew Research (2010):
82% of Egyptian Muslims favor stoning adulterers
70% of Jordanian Muslims favor stoning adulterers
42% of Indonesian Muslims favor stoning adulterers
82% of Pakistanis favor stoning adulterers
56% of Nigerian Muslims favor stoning adulterers
http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/[4]
Pew Global (2006)
68% of Palestinian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
43% of Nigerian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
38% of Lebanese Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
15% of Egyptian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
http://cnsnews.com/node/53865[5]
World Public Opinion (2009):
61% of Egyptians approve of attacks on Americans
32% of Indonesians approve of attacks on Americans
41% of Pakistanis approve of attacks on Americans
38% of Moroccans approve of attacks on Americans
62% of Jordanians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (21% oppose)
42% of Turks approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (45% oppose)
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf[6]
NOP Research:
62% percent of British Muslims say freedom of speech shouldn't be protected
1 in 4 British Muslims say 7/7 bombings were justified
78% of British Muslims support punishing the publishers of Muhammad cartoons
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/main1893879.shtml&date=2011-04-06[7]
People Press Surveys:
31% of Turks support suicide attacks against Westerners in Iraq.
http://www.people-press.org/2004/03/16/a-year-after-iraq-war/[8]
Belgian HLN:
16% of young Muslims in Belgium state terrorism is "acceptable".
http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/1275/Islam/article/detail/1619036/2013/04/22/Zestien-procent-moslimjongens-vindt-terrorisme-aanvaardbaar.dhtml[9]
ICM Poll:
25% of British Muslims disagree that a Muslim has an obligation to report terrorists to police.
http://www.icmresearch.co.uk/reviews/2004/Guardian%20Muslims%20Poll%20Nov%2004/Guardian%20Muslims%20Nov04.asp[10]
Pew Research (2007):
26% of younger Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are justified.
35% of young Muslims in Britain believe suicide bombings are justified (24% overall).
42% of young Muslims in France believe suicide bombings are justified (35% overall).
22% of young Muslims in Germany believe suicide bombings are justified (13% overall).
29% of young Muslims in Spain believe suicide bombings are justified (25% overall).
http://www.pewresearch.org/files/old-assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf#page=60[11]
Al-Jazeera (2006):
49.9% of Muslims polled support Osama bin Laden
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Osama_bin_Laden[12]
Populus Poll (2006):
16% of British Muslims believe suicide attacks against Israelis are justified.
37% believe Jews in Britain are a "legitimate target".
http://www.populuslimited.com/pdf/2006_02_07_times.pdf[13]
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist[14]
GfK NOP:
28% of British Muslims want Britain to be an Islamic state
http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/ShariaLawOrOneLawForAll.pdf[15]
NOP Research:
68% of British Muslims support the arrest and prosecution of anyone who insults Islam;
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/main1893879.shtml&date=2011-04-06[16]
MacDonald Laurier Institute:
62% of Muslims want Sharia in Canada (15% say make it mandatory)
35% of Canadian Muslims would not repudiate al-Qaeda
http://www.torontosun.com/2011/11/01/strong-support-for-shariah-in-canada[17]
http://www.macdonaldlaurier.ca/much-good-news-and-some-worrying-results-in-new-study-of-muslim-public-opinion-in-canada/[18]
al-Arabiya:
36% of Arabs polled said the 9/11 attacks were morally justified; 38% disagreed;
26% Unsure
http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2011/09/10/166274.html[19]
Gallup:
38.6% of Muslims believe 9/11 attacks were justified (7% "fully", 6.5% "mostly", 23.1% "partially")
http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/view/just-like-us-really[20]
Policy Exchange:
1 in 4 Muslims in the UK have never heard of the Holocaust;
Only 34% of British Muslims believe the Holocaust ever happened.
http://www.imaginate.uk.com/MCC01_SURVEY/Site%20Download.pdf[21]
http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/ShariaLawOrOneLawForAll.pdf[22]



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

Quote:In 1971, philosopher John Rawls concludes in A Theory of Justice that a just society must tolerate the intolerant, for otherwise, the society would then itself be intolerant, and thus unjust. However, Rawls also insists, like Popper, that society has a reasonable right of self-preservation that supersedes the principle of tolerance: "
Quote:While an intolerant sect does not itself have title to complain of intolerance, its freedom should be restricted only when the tolerant sincerely and with reason believe that their own security and that of the institutions of liberty are in danger."

Intolerance of intolerance is not the same as intolerance itself.



All of the above is hashed shamelessly from this reddit comment thread:
https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/3...tain_over/



Just thought it good material the next time we're told we shouldn't lump all muslims in the same bracket, or told we shouldn't criticize Islam for some bullshit PC reasoning, or some do-gooder moral highground humping tosh about how all muslims aren't terrorists. 


Stop letting these cunts use our own freedoms against us. Quit relenting to the PC brigade who tell us we should show respect for this fucked up backward religion, and stop worrying about offending these muslims who insist they're not the majority. 

Fuck them and fuck their religion.
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#2
RE: Muslims
(November 20, 2015 at 5:01 pm)Napoléon Wrote:
Quote:In 1971, philosopher John Rawls concludes in A Theory of Justice that a just society must tolerate the intolerant, for otherwise, the society would then itself be intolerant, and thus unjust. However, Rawls also insists, like Popper, that society has a reasonable right of self-preservation that supersedes the principle of tolerance: "
Quote:While an intolerant sect does not itself have title to complain of intolerance, its freedom should be restricted only when the tolerant sincerely and with reason believe that their own security and that of the institutions of liberty are in danger."

Intolerance of intolerance is not the same as intolerance itself.



All of the above is hashed shamelessly from this reddit comment thread:
https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/3...tain_over/



Just thought it good material the next time we're told we shouldn't lump all muslims in the same bracket, or told we shouldn't criticize Islam for some bullshit PC reasoning, or some do-gooder moral highground humping tosh about how all muslims aren't terrorists. 


Stop letting these cunts use our own freedoms against us. Quit relenting to the PC brigade who tell us we should show respect for this fucked up backward religion, and stop worrying about offending these muslims who insist they're not the majority. 

Fuck them and fuck their religion.
There' an extremely big difference between tolerating Muslims and kissing there collective ass. I don't expect them to understand that. Tough shit.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.

I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.

Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire

Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.
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#3
RE: Muslims
(November 20, 2015 at 5:18 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote: There' an extremely big difference between tolerating Muslims and kissing there collective ass. I don't expect them to understand that. Tough shit.

It's not the muslims that you need to understand that though.
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#4
RE: Muslims
Since when is being the majority some sort of criteria? Whites did pretty well on South Africa being a minority. Being a minority doesn't mean you're not powerful, just think of the link between Islam, rich Muslims and oil.
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you

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#5
RE: Muslims
It's either "they're not the majority" or "they're not real muslims".

Pick one of the two and you have a PC dickwad's wet dream on how to avoid the issue.
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#6
RE: Muslims
(November 20, 2015 at 5:24 pm)Napoléon Wrote: It's either "they're not the majority" or "they're not real muslims".

Pick one of the two and you have a PC dickwad's wet dream on how to avoid the issue.

They learned that from Abraham, not Muhammad.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.

I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.

Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire

Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.
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#7
RE: Muslims
Uh...  Undecided
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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#8
RE: Muslims
(November 20, 2015 at 6:34 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Uh...  Undecided

Got something to add?
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#9
RE: Muslims
(November 20, 2015 at 6:57 pm)Napoléon Wrote:
(November 20, 2015 at 6:34 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Uh...  Undecided

Got something to add?

Not really. It just really sucks.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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#10
RE: Muslims
(November 20, 2015 at 7:00 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Not really. It just really sucks.

What sucks?
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