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| There is no God, and I am certain of this. | 26 | 37.68% | |
| I firmly believe there is no God, but there is a teeny tiny possibility I could be wrong. | 15 | 21.74% | |
| I believe there is no God, but there is a possibility I could be wrong. | 10 | 14.49% | |
| I really don't know if there is a God or not, but since I have not yet seen any evidence, I live my life as though there isn't. | 18 | 26.09% | |
| I have no idea one way or the other, and am always weighing both possibilities in my head. | 0 | 0% | |
| Total | 69 vote(s) | 100% | |
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Where do you stand on the existence of God?
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 (November 24, 2015 at 6:41 pm)Napoléon Wrote:(November 24, 2015 at 6:16 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I hate YOU. I changed it for you.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh (November 24, 2015 at 6:39 pm)Clueless Morgan Wrote: BTW, what's with the asterisk on this option? That means it's the one you selected, silly.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh  RE: Where do you stand on the existence of God?
November 24, 2015 at 6:46 pm
(This post was last modified: November 24, 2015 at 6:46 pm by Napoléon.)
Noob sounds like boob
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh  (November 24, 2015 at 6:13 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(November 24, 2015 at 5:04 pm)Clueless Morgan Wrote: That wasn't a natural disaster, that was caused by gays. Yes, it did not go unnoticed that the funny gif allowed you to ignore the question. Actually, I really don't care, because i consider the problem of evil a weak argument against the existence of a god. You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence. 
In Nebraska.
I don't have an anger problem, I have an idiot problem.
(November 24, 2015 at 3:22 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:(November 24, 2015 at 1:10 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Actually, the "problem of evil" has never for one second made me question God because I believe in free will. There was never a formal argumentative reason, except for maybe "why doesn't He show Himself to everyone all the time?" I've mainly just questioned it because I had never seen it so I toyed with the possibility that it could all be made up. I was never an atheist, not even an agnostic, but I'd definitely had times/phases where I wondered if it really is all true. I didn't answer because I am not trying to convince anyone of anything, and I don't want this thread to turn into a debate. Usually when I get asked a question and I answer it, the response back to me isn't "Oh I see. Ok, thanks for answering." It usually leads to attacks/debates, which I really don't care for. The answer is I believe God allows nature to take its course. Just as we came from nature taking its course (evolution), so too may we perish the same way. I believe it's God's way of doing things. Micromanaging is not His style. I think it's also important to keep in mind that death on this earth seems like the absolute end to us, but if you look at it through the perspective of a god, death on this earth is only the beginning of eternal life. So while we see it as the absolute worst thing ever imaginable, if we are trying to understand the thoughts of a god, we need to put things in his perspective. We may lose a loved one due to natural disaster and it will negatively impact the rest of the 50 or so years of our lives. But in the realm of all eternity, what is 10 years? 20 years? 50 years? If we live forever, is 20 years of depression over the loss of a loved one the absolute worst thing imaginable? I'm not saying it isn't an awful thing to endure, or that I feel extremely sorry for these people. I'm also not saying I don't believe He cares about our suffering. I believes He cares very much. But I believe He is able to see the big picture and to see that nature's antics won't destroy us and will become insignificant in the realm of our eternal lives. So I don't think that letting nature take its course (which is what resulted in our existence in the first place), is malevolent. I don't think tsunamis are evil. I don't think death, in and of itself is evil. I believe evil acts committed by conscious people, are evil. And that is entirely our own free will.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh  (November 24, 2015 at 6:43 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(November 24, 2015 at 6:39 pm)Clueless Morgan Wrote: BTW, what's with the asterisk on this option? ![[Image: giphy.gif]](https://media.giphy.com/media/iB7aWZ54LkpW0/giphy.gif) Well ain't that embarrassing... (November 24, 2015 at 6:46 pm)Napoléon Wrote: CM you absolute n00b. Tempted to post this in the hall of shame. I so deserve it...
Teenaged X-Files obsession + Bermuda Triangle episode + Self-led school research project = Atheist.
 (November 24, 2015 at 6:39 pm)Clueless Morgan Wrote: BTW, what's with the asterisk on this option? Ummm...that means...you...voted for it? Is that right? I missed the joke, didn't I? There was a joke, and I didn't get it. Damn.
Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42) Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com |
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