Thoughts on new Star Wars (No Spoilers, I Promise)

[Mechaghostman2]

I won't give anything away, but I will say that the new Star Wars film is epic. It's not as good as Empire or the 4th one, but it's better than the Prequels and Episode 6. It's not a perfect movie, and I will say that the prequels did the lightsaber duels better, and the villain... kinda Disney-ish but not too bad. Overall I like it, even if some ass hole spoiled something big in the film for me.

[Anomalocaris]

It was mostly mindless, formulaic action fantasy, done heavy handedly, and quite unremittingly exploitatively.   The best compliment I can give is it was not quite as bad in absolute magnitude of awefulness as reboot Star Trek, but still pretty much bad in all the same ways as reboot Star Trek.

[Mechaghostman2]

It was mostly mindless, formulaic action fantasy, done heavy handedly, and quite unremittingly exploitatively.   The best compliment I can give is it was not quite as bad in absolute magnitude of awefulness as reboot Star Trek, but still pretty much bad in all the same ways as reboot Star Trek.

When you look at the original Star Wars films, they are in many ways in the same boat. Yeah the effects were certainly groundbreaking for the time, but come on, the acting and plot lines are rather cheesy. The original films were adventure movies made for kids, so what did you expect with the new film? Basically it was a re-hash of Episode 4 in almost everything that it did, but it still did a good job at it.

[Anomalocaris]

The first Star Wars was no great work of cinematic craft, but it still contained some well crafted aspects.   The mystique around the republic, the Jedi and the force was subtle and effective.   The menace of the empire was also pervasive without being all cartoonish. The landscape was effective in helping the atmosphere.

The new movie had none of this, except by accidentally through copying of some visual cues from the old one.  

Old Star Wars was a loud movie with some subtleties, the new one a cacophonous one without any.

Worst of all, the new villain, Kylo ren, strives to be mean without conveying any menace. His master an ambodiment of the crypt, not of evil.

[Foxaèr]

I'm waiting for it to be available for free to watch on a certain site. Shouldn't be long.

[Reforged]

Don't they essentially have a new deathstar in it?
I mean... thats pretty lazy writing. Is the only epic danger in this universe from giant planet destroying spaceships?

[Anomalocaris]

Yes, another Death Star,   This time it is innovatively restyled as "star killer".   Oh, yes, just in case the menace is not clear, there is side by side pictures of the Death Star and star killer, right in the movie, to give you the picture.

Much bigger size and trees growing on its surface not withstanding, you can still kill it with a tiny little fighter, of course.   You would think after losing 2 Death Stars to little fighters, the third, evidently much more capital intensive than the first two, would have featured a tighter defense.

The whole thing has a trade mark jar jar Abrams, stupid but acting smugly cleaver air to it, just like nasty aliens in the reboot Star Trek.

[TheRealJoeFish]

As you may have seen in other threads I also thought it was really good.

I think it's just guys with AF handles that start with the letter "A" that don't like it

[Anomalocaris]

Don't get me wrong, I think it was not even bad.

[Whateverist]

As you may have seen in other threads I also thought it was really good.

I think it's just guys with AF handles that start with the letter "A" that don't like it

Like Asshole McGee?